<p>I must admit, when I read a poster bemoaning the lack of "hot girls" at a school, I think, "Well, how HOT are you buddy?" Maybe I'm a little more sensitive to the "hot girls" query because I'm female. MAybe because I have a daughter who doesn't fit the conventional mold of "hotness". Not that I want her considered "hot". I know it works both ways-girls looking for attractive boys and visa versa. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, we all respond to visual clues and I like to look at Daniel Day Lewis or Lord of the Rings guys as well as the next female. </p>
<p>On all the school visits, the mom in me thinks all the kids look wonderful, even tho they don't all have model looks.</p>
<p>When I was 18, I KNEW I would marry a tall big man. (My dad was 6'3"). The husband I am crazy about is 5'8" and small boned. </p>
<p>Part of my sensitivity is due to the fact I know a couple of my kids would not be considered "hot". Beautiful kids with great personalities, but not conventional "hotness". </p>
<p>I don't want to get flamed..............and hope I won't by posting this thread.</p>
<p>I keep telling my kids "nice and smart is more important than pretty\handsome"</p>
<p>The kids posting about "hot" are 17-years-young, hoping to go to college and find love, romance, and, of course, sex. They talk big, but I think, in the end, they will be less swayed by "hot" and more swayed by kind, interesting, and funny. :)</p>
<p>I think any parent here can think of more than one teenager who isn't considered "hot" by their peers who will be considered a real catch in a few years. Frankly, I think they're the lucky ones...</p>
<p>My answer to those questions as always been something along the lines of "Yes, there are hot MOTAS at the school you asked about; unfortunately, with your attitude, none of them will be paying any attention to you anyway."</p>
<p>The notion that some schools self-select for "hot" students is hysterical. As if there is a) agreement on what is hot, b) the admissions department has any way to know in most cases (I mean, if you were voted "Hottest Senior" at your high school that might be a clue if not sarcasm), and c) all the people who aren't hot decide not to apply or attend.</p>
<p>In fact, it's a good splitter question: anyone who asks it gets their file thrown into the "Reject" pile right away.</p>
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<p>Ridiculous. Some schools do have more attractive females. I've been to different schools. I've seen it. I don't know how to explain it, but it's definitely true. Oh, and top schools seem to have fewer attractive girls - - I guess god doesn't give with both hands.</p>
<p>I would bet that the kids looking for schools with "hot students", think that "hot" implies "easy"</p>
<p>That some how a campus with more "attractive" (physically anyway) that they will have a better chance of hooking up</p>
<p>And the ones asking about "attractive students" are immature, shallow, and have nothing much to offer themselves</p>
<p>If THAT is what you want for four years, well, good luck...cause if those are your criteria for picking GF or BFs or whatever, and you come across that way, you won't go very far</p>
<p>That is what I think of those shallow posters who care about physical appearance of depth, heart, humor, quirkiness, intelligence, etc</p>
<p>I kind of agree with citygirlsmom. Most of those posts seem to have an undercurrent of "How lucky can I be, getting in girls'/boys' pants".</p>
<p>One thing that irks me, though, is when there are posts going up about racial splits. Like how some people say white guys go for Asian girls ("yellow fever", very apparent at my sister's Engineering school according to her) and Asian girls never go for white guys and some people seem to think Japanese girls are as sex-crazed as the hentai cartoons seem to make them and blah blah blah. </p>
<p>IMO the relative "attractiveness" of the women at different schools may have less to do with innate differences and more to do with the effort made to achieve that "hot" look. Looking "hot" takes some effort, even at 18. There are no doubt schools where a greater proportion of girls are into the shopping, makeup, and hair thing and that may differ from a school where the women can't be bothered with such things, perhap because they are busy studying, active in causes and activities or what have you. Ever seen photos of celebs without their hair and makeup done or watched one of those makeover shows?</p>
<p>I think there's no doubt that a certain amount of self-selection is a factor in that a young woman who wears band T shirts and no makeup may not be comfortable at a school where the majority of women won't show up in class unless they are all made up, eyebrow-waxed, manicured and pedicured! But my main point is that this has less to do with innate attractiveness and more to do with how motivated the women are about their appearance. Many schools have women in both categories, but some schools are represented more by one group than the other!</p>
<p>As far as the emphasis on physical attractiveness in our culture is concerned, don't hold your breath for that to change anytime soon!</p>
<p>Most kids out of high school are superficial in some aspect. You really can't have someone tell you looks aren't important and beleive that right off the bat. You have to live life for a while, maybe go after the hot guy or girl and learn for yourself what is really important.</p>
<p>I think it's pretty normal behavior to put a heavy empahsis on looks when you're 19. If that's still your ideal when you're 39, well, that's just maladjusted.</p>
<p>Its is normal, but the motive behind wanting a "hot" campus is not just for the eye candy, it is possibly an attitude that "hot" means loose, which it does not</p>
<p>It can not be because the people asking just want to look at pretty things, no, its because they want to hook up with pretty things and think they have any chance with anything female at all anyway</p>
<p>Its really cool that you all place this on age and everything... but being "hott" is still as valuable when you are 40 as it is when your 19, its just that at age 40 ppl start getting not so hott and 40 yr. olds drop those standards and try to use maturity as their own excuse for their "failing" looks. Still, if a hott 40 year old is around all the 40 year old guys/girls still notice even if they do try to tell themselves that they arent superficial. The truth is that nice/sweet/smart is great and all but nice/sweet/smart/hott, or even nice/hott or sweet/hott, trumps it any day</p>
<p>momoffive -- i totally sympathize with the frustration, but i try to be calm about it. people like what they like. for some people, it is important to go to a college where some particular type of person is well-represented -- science geeks, conventionally beautiful girls, debate champions, children of the rich and powerful, whatever. people like what they like. </p>
<p>there's nothing really wrong in an abstract sense with wanting to be around hot girls, but others (like you and maybe me) might mark you down for it. that's the price you pay for having preferences. (don't want to go to school with black people? fine, but be aware that if you state that preference, people will judge you accordingly. same thing goes here.)</p>
<p>i do think it's important to keep in mind that having unmet expectations can also lead to unhappiness, so it's not necessarily wrong for these kids to be concerned about hotness or whatever. i know some people who came to caltech half-expecting it to be filled with california babes and needless to say they are frustrated in their dating lives. it would have been better for them to go to USLA or something with the laker girls. (as it stands, they have to drive there.)</p>
<p>just a bunch of disjointed thoughts. flame away.</p>