Realistic SAT Score for Wharton (Unhooked Applicant)

<p>What kind of SAT score is necessary for an unhooked (Asian) applicant for Penn Wharton ED? What kind of SAT score would be realistic for at least having a decent chance for acceptance? </p>

<p>Also, is a 740 Math score on the SAT I reasoning test decent enough to get into Wharton, or should one retake? Especially considering that the other two sections are perfect scores, but I hear that Wharton places a lot of emphasis on the Math section. Can you make up Math I with a good score on the Math II?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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<p>To some extent, but they test different things (achievement vs. aptitude). </p>

<p>There is no required score; higher is better. Most unhooked applicants accepted to Wharton probably have 2300+, though.</p>

<p>I would assume a 2300+, however that number is merely speculation.</p>

<p>depends… i would retake; then again idk how much it matters. i got WL’d with a 2350 =P</p>

<p>Columbia is a great school too!
Maybe Penn thought you regarded Penn as your safety?</p>

<p>I understand that, I have a 2340 - my main question is that because my math score is a 740 (January curve sucked haha - missed two questions) - should I retake due to a heard emphasis on math by Wharton? </p>

<p>Silverturtle, you’re pretty knowledgeable on most testing. Is 2300+ good enough, or do I have to retake to improve my math score?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I mean I wouldn’t.
What am I saying. I got a 2370 and I am taking it again for a 2400. lol :)</p>

<p>Yeah, exactly haha. Should I consider retaking to improve my Mathematics score?</p>

<p>Math I is very hard. I mean you need some luck involved.
The curve is just ridiculous.</p>

<p>There is no magic score. I think what Penn uses quantitative numbers to weed out applicants, say something like 2200 and top 10%. Those with these numbers make the first cut, those who don’t go into the reject pile. This first cut represents those who can handle the academic load. I think Penn then decides who they want in their school. They determine this by reading the applicant’s essays, recommendations and considering their jobs and ECs. The regional representatives makes recommendations to the committee of whom to accept. I think the committee pretty much follows the regional reps’ advice, assuming they aren’t recommending too many people.</p>

<p>So quantitative numbers, at best, only allow you to make the second level of consideration. They won’t ensure your acceptance. This is why some unhooked candidates with a 2400 get rejected while other unhooked candidates with a 2200 get accepted. This is also why retaking the SAT after scoring a 2370 is ill advised. You’d be better off working on your essays.</p>

<p>Can anyone else corroborate what Hope Full said? I’d rathe work on the application than focus on the standardized testing. I’ve heard this from some individuals - but other people disagree. I know specifically Jersey13 quoted on one post </p>

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<p>Please avoid spreading the common misconception that their is some sort of “academic qualification cutoff” beyond which all objective academic stats are weighted equally. </p>

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<p>Any opinions?</p>

<p>Many CCers (particularly persistent parents wielding anecdotes) do indeed attempt to assert that there is a threshold beyond which score increases are irrelevant; the data belie this, and logic indicates that it shouldn’t be the case. Don’t take this too far, however:

[ul][<em>]The chance that a 2340er will retake and get 2400 is very low. Those who say that most 2300ers would probably get 2400 if they were to retake are mistaken. If, however, you are consistently scoring 2400 on practice tests (as some do), it’s fine to ignore that reality.
[</em>]If you don’t get 2400 or if your top school does not want its applicants to use Score Choice (and you have a moral aversion to lying), you will need to rely on superscoring to achieve a higher score. Colleges might not be happy with a person who retakes an already high score; this likely varies officer-to-officer.
[li]The admissions advantage afforded by an increase from 2340 to 2400 is minimal (though not necessarily insignificant). If you can spend the preparation time doing something more meaningful, do so; rejection is unlikely to be justifiably attributable to that point differential.[/li][/ul]
But if I were you (though I do not know how you have scored on practice tests (i.e., whether the 2340 was flukishly high, as expected, or flukishly low)), I would retake. :)</p>

<p>2300 and above so your app wont be overlooked</p>

<p>^ Not true.</p>

<p>Thanks silverturtle!</p>

<p>I know three unhooked students (all Asian females) accepted ED to Wharton (one to Huntsman, two straight Wharton UG). Their SAT scores (superscored) were: 2280, 2190, and 2160. All were in the top 5% of their graduating classes when they applied. All had great ECs and genuine business experiences. I also know another Asian girl who had a 2330 and was rejected RD from Jerome Fisher and waitlisted at Wharton UG (she declined the waitlist offer). </p>

<p>This is all I can offer without including conjecture.</p>

<p>Thanks HopeFull for your mention of anecdotal evidence. I appreciate it. I think I’ve got some decent business experiences (helping fundraise through a business plan for student organizations) so that’ll help me some.</p>

<p>Silverturtle, are you saying that a college will disregard one’s app because one’s 2300 SAT score wasn’t high enough?</p>

<p>Ya…if you apply ED to Wharton you may even be able to squeek it out with a 2100+ on ur SAT. Obviously, you are at a great score right now (2340). I was admitted to Wharton and the Life Sciences and Management Program with a 2340 (800 CR, 780 W, 760 M), so your completely fine. I’m not quite sure I buy into the notion that Wharton is as competitive as its HYPS peers. Look at the results threads over the last few years and you’ll see what I mean.</p>

<p>I ditto the turtle.</p>

<p>I think what people forget to consider is that if you scored in the mid or low 2200s, you may have only missed ten questions. And if your subscores are all over 700, you may have missed less than five on each section. The SAT is a four hour test, which begs the question, how many of the ten questions that were missed to get, say a 2230, were missed because the test taker truly could not answer the question? Could many of these questions have been missed only due to errors such as misreading the question or briefly loosing focus? If each part of the test was taken separately (not on the same day), would the test taker have scored slightly higher? There are about 54 questions in math, about 67 in Critical reading, and about 49 multiple choice questions and an essay in Writing. This does not include the experimental section.
I don’t bring this up to question the SAT, as it seems that most people who do retake the test receive new scores that are not that much higher or lower than their original score, showing that the test is pretty consistent. However, I do wonder if it is reasonable to consider oneself within the margin of error of the test if one has only missed three or four questions per section.</p>