<p>I finished my freshmen year at a community college with a 4.0 GPA. I want to double major math/physics. I will continue taking all advanced math and science classes sophomore year and am trying to narrow down schools I can get in to that have good programs for my major. I am actually going to retake my SAT because I know I can do much better than before. </p>
<p><strong>Stats</strong>
High school GPA: 3.7 (weighed)
College GPA: 4.0 (I guarantee it will still b 4.0 after sophomore year too)
Extra Curricular: Extensive dance training every day throughout the week. three years of voice lessons while in high school. Chamber sings all 4 years, and many musicals/concerts, dance shows. Was the leader of the bass section senior year. Also had gymnastic training for 2 years while in high school.
SAT: 1610 taken junior year but am going to retake it before I apply to transfer because I know I can get over 2000 now.</p>
<p>Potential colleges with good program for me to apply to:</p>
<p>University of Chicago
Berkeley
UCLA
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
Columbia
Cornell
University of Texas - Austin
University of Wisconsin - Madison
University of Pennsylvania
University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
UCSD
University of Maryland College Park</p>
<p>Which do I have a good chance of getting in to?</p>
<p>Assuming you get your SAT scores up to a 2000:</p>
<p>Reaches:
University of Chicago
Berkeley
UCLA
Columbia
University of Pennsylvania
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
Columbia</p>
<p>Matches/Low Reaches:
University of Texas - Austin
University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
UCSD
University of Maryland College Park
University of Wisconsin- Madison</p>
<p>First of all great job this year. A 4.0 is really impressive. Second of all, you need to consider finances. How are you going to pay for these schools? All the schools you listed are pricey for OOSers or private and few schools give good transfer aid.</p>
<p>I do not think retaking your SATs will affect your position that much considering you are applying for junior transfer, but a good math score may help. Maybe try to get involved with any type of honors program/society at your CC next year or an EC related to your majors as well.</p>
<p>How would UCLA be a reach with a 4.0 in a bunch of difficult classes like differential equations, linear algebra, calc 3, university physics, gen biology, gen chemistry, computer science (java), etc.? I’ve looked at people who have gotten in as transfers on college confidential and I would be quite qualified.</p>
<p>UCLA and Berkeley are reaches for an OOS student because the transfer rate for OOS students hovers around 10%. Or put another way, 9 out of 10 students trying to transfer from OOS are turned down.</p>
<p>If you are in state, then UCLA and Berkeley are matches, but not necessarily guarantees.</p>
<p>UCLA and Berkeley turn down 4.0 students because they have more qualified applicants than spaces. And they do not take students strictly on a gpa-basis, though that is still probably one of their biggest factors. If you are in-state transfer you have a good shot, if you are OOS transfer, make sure you have other options. And if you are OOS, be sure you can afford the 50k/year sticker price (and steadily rising).</p>
<p>yeah I have lived in ca my whole life but just moved to arizona a year ago about and have residency here now because I got into csulb after high school but decided to move with my mom so i could just save money at a cc and transfer later to a better school. But now I am incredibly worried I won’t be able to get in anywhere that I want and deserve to! If i were to somehow find a place to live in cali for sophomore year and go to a community college and obtain residency will i then be considered an in-state transfer?
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<p>O and I see a ton of people saying they are accepted to UCLA with 3.5-3.7 GPAs. and their data table on their website for various transfer students all average 3.5-3.7 GPAs pretty much.</p>
<p>they do accept 3.5 students, but most of them are in the community colleges which have contract with the UC schools. On the dark side of it, I got 3.93 in UVa but got turned down by UCB</p>
<p>I’m not asking for any financial aid. As I see, it has nothing to do with OOS or not. One of my friend is from Cal and got 3.97 in my school (very strong ECs, got into Cornell and Columbia) got turned down too. I think they like to see you in the CCs that they have contract with. But don’t worry about that. I just realized that it’ll be easier to get into some ivies as long as you apply for most of it. I accidentally got a crappy recommendation letter, but still made it to cornell. I think as long as you broaden your ECs, you will definitely end up somewhere great.</p>
As others stated, all the UC schools give priority to California Community Students. Establishing residency for tuition purposes will also be difficult. Transferring is not impossible but it will be hard. Not only will priority be placed on CCC students, but UCLA and Berkeley emphasize the completion of prerequisites. Many 4.0 applicants have been denied because of their failure to complete prerequisites.</p>
<p>If you’re serious about ULCA and Berkeley make sure to visit each school’s website and gather the necessary information. Those schools will most likely not have articulation agreements with your CC but you can compare the courses with a CCC such as Santa Monica College or DeAnza, etc.</p>
<p>I was assuming I would get some sort of financial aid and then I would take out loans for the rest. Are OOS tuition and fees only applicable for the first year at the OOS college? Because if it is, then it wouldn’t be such a big deal I don’t think. I have checked the courses transfers are supposed to have completed both for Berkeley and UCLA and I will have completed them by the time we are suposed to have completed them (spring simester of the academic year before transfer).</p>
Financial aid for OOS students is not that great. FA for OOS transfer students is even worse. The public schools will tend to take care of their in state students before they distribute money out to the OOS students. And no those fees will be in place for the remainder of your time at the current institution.</p>
<p>Only three schools out of the list are private (UChicago, Columbia, and Cornell) meaning that residency does not matter. Everyone will pay the same amount regardless of residency. You are more likely to receive substantial aid from Columbia and Cornell but transfer admissions to those schools are highly selective.</p>
<p>No. The OOS tuition would apply all 4 years. It will be all but impossible to get residency status (as defined by the UCs) while attending a UC. Not going to happen.</p>
<p>The tables that had students getting in with 3.5-3.7 are almost ALL in state CCC students. Recall that only about 10% are OOS transfers.</p>
<p>But it gives you the option to look at GPAs form the transfers from OOS and they were around 3.6-3.7
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and the transfers that got admitted for my majors were around 3.6 or so (of course that datum most likely includes in state people too).</p>
<p>What am I supposed to do? This is so unfair. It should go based off of merit and not just because they are from california! I should not have to suffer just because I live in Arizona and there are no good enough schools for math and physics for me. I mean what if other schools in other states similar to UCLA don’t like to accept out of state people either?</p>
<p>It is not unfair, public colleges are supported by state taxes and have mandates to support IS students first. CA is an extreme case, particularly with their current fiscal crisis, but most state schools follow similar policies. The only public universities that supposedly (I don’t have personal experience) give similar need based FA to IS & OOS students are UVA and UNC-CH, but both give preference to IS applicants for admissions.</p>
<p>I’m not saying you can’t or won’t be accepted to a UC–just know OOS transfer rates are low. And from everything I know, you will be stuck with OOS tuition costs.</p>
<p>It sounds like your plan to move OOS was not well thought out. All of this information was the same and available to you before you moved. The state by state system is just what it is and it often takes planning several years ahead if a student wants to take advantage of a certain state’s in-state tuition breaks. You may want to look at AZ’s offerings now.</p>
<p>You are in a bit of shock right now. You may be in for more unpleasant revelations as you figure out what you actually can afford, what loan limits there are, and have to wrestle with the financial side of affording OOS publics and/or various private colleges. Do you know your EFC? Do you know what your parent/s are able and willing to pay each year? Do you know the Federal loan limits each year? Do you know the average FA package that is offered to students from your income bracket from each of your target college? Finding a college you can get into is only the first of two steps–you need to research which colleges you can also actually afford.</p>
<p>It is a frustrating process, but the more you know the more you can make realistic and doable plans. You are not the first to have to rethink your college strategy and redraft your list of targets for one reason or another.</p>
<p>Wow you know I think the best thing to do for me is to move back to Ca and get residency and finish the prerequisite requirements at a california community college, that way I will pay in state tuition and have increased chances of acceptance. But that will make it so that after I finish sophomore year, I will have to wait an entire academic year before I pick back up in my junior year at UCLA or something because I won’t be able to move back and go to school out there until next spring simester so then i have to wait a year to gain residency and then on top of that UCLA doesn’t accept spring transfers so Id be in limbo for 2 simesters. It is unfair that if i were to transfer as an OOS I would have to pay OOS for ALL years rather than just the first considering people normally get IS once they live in the state for a year.</p>