Out of state transfer - chance please!

<p>Hey guys. I'm going to apply to CAL, UCLA, and USC, USF, and Santa Clara U as a transfer this fall. I am going into college with 32 credits from local universities and colleges. I will be attending a top 75 four year private school in the Midwest. </p>

<p>MAJOR: UCB - political science UCLA - economics USC - business administration
GPA: 3.5 (after first semester 3.6667)
UNITS: 63 by May 2012
EXTRACURRICULARS: A TON - church, volunteering, student government, jobs, leadership programs (one at Georgetown), and the list goes on
PERSONAL STATEMENT: Very good, about my struggles with ADHD without medication and how I have persevered. The other is about my political involvement with the Obama 08 campaign and how much I learned from my 6th month internship.
PREREQUISITES: All done </p>

<p>My DREAM school is Cal. That's where I want to go and I would go there in a second if I get in. Either way I'm headed to Cali next year Please be honest with my chances!!</p>

<p>Can someone please chance me? I see it has 52 views, so can one you please chance me??!??! lol</p>

<p>as a person who was in your shoes last year, i don’t think your chances are high for CAL unfortunately. i was considered an out of state transfer as well as I attended a private 4 year in Boston and I got rejected by UCB. I’m not sure how impacted polysci is at Cal, but I was a science major with about a 3.85 GPA, fairly good extracurriculars and pretty good essays (IMO) and I couldn’t get in. Fortunately I got accepted into UCLA (i consider myself very lucky) and I received a pamphlet about the incoming transfer class and only 1% of the accepted students were from OOS. Out of state transfers definitely have a huge disadvantage because california CC applicants and in state transfers get priority over us. But in terms of the other colleges you plan to apply to:</p>

<p>UCLA - okay chance: your extracurriculars look good, but your GPA is below average if you look at this website ([Profile</a> of Admitted Transfer Students by Major, Fall 2009 - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/Adm_tr/Tr_Prof09_mjr.htm#AA]Profile”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/Prospect/Adm_tr/Tr_Prof09_mjr.htm#AA))</p>

<p>USC: may have a better chance than UCLA b/c USC is a private university and given the same priority as other california applicants</p>

<p>USF, Santa Clara: I don’t know too much about how hard it is to transfer in, but if i were to guess, you’d almost definitely be accepted. but as i said, Im not very familiar with these schools in terms of their transfer acceptance.</p>

<p>I hope this helps!</p>

<p>students.berkeley.edu/files/Admissions/12626<em>5.Info</em>TransAdm.pdf</p>

<p>IMO, your chances at UCLA & UCB are pretty slim. Both those schools don’t admit many OOS transfers. UCLA only admitted around 12% of last year. Econ at UCLA is very competitive the average admit in 2010 had a 3.95 GPA. It is possible that they didnt admit any OOS candidates for Econ. </p>

<p>[Profile</a> of Admitted Transfer Students, Fall 2011 - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof11.htm]Profile”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof11.htm)</p>

<p>As for USC, it’s a private school, so you have decent shot at getting in. But Marshall is competitive, how did do you in your Pre. Req courses? </p>

<p>USF and Santa Clara. I don’t know much about them, but i assume it would not be as difficult to gain admissions. Via College board, Santa Clara admits over 50% of their transfer applicants. </p>

<p>Good Luck!</p>

<p>Ya the OOS acceptance rate is like 16% for Cal. I honestly have the picture perfect essays. One of them is very motivation and talks about how I have overcome my struggles with ADHD. The other is about my extensive involvement and passion for politics. Idk, its tough to think about because Cal is my DREAM school. Ii’ll be able to fill every section on the app with ECs, jobs, etc. I have the prerequisites done for Econ and Poly Sci but I figured I have a better shot at getting accepted with my Poly Sci extracurriculars. </p>

<p>I have the Calculus done for Marshall with an A and I will have the English done second semester of this school year.</p>

<p>Boston Boy: what other schools did you apply/get accepted to in Cali? Did you try and appeal?</p>

<p>no i didnt appeal for CAL because i was totally content with going to UCLA and honestly, i liked the UCLA environment more than CAL’s. If i had gotten into berkeley I probably still would have chosen to attend LA. </p>

<p>So besides UCLA and Berkeley, I applied to UCSD, Irvine and Davis and got accepted. In any case, I consider myself very fortunate to be accepted into these schools considering OOS have last priority in terms of admissions. Again, because of this your chances for CAL and UCLA aren’t very high, espcially for your major. I think if you really wanted to go to cal, you’d want to choose a major thats fairly easy to get accepted into thats somewhat relavent to poly sci or economics. try looking through previous admission statistics and see what those majors are because this will only increase your chance of getting into those schools. I hope this helps!</p>

<p>@BostonBoy</p>

<p>If you don’t mind me asking, which major did you apply to specifically? (for cal) I’m an out of state transfer (university of miami) with a 3.76 GPA, although with my fall semester, I should have a 3.81 for 3 total semesters. </p>

<p>With the statfinder, I found that the average accepted out of state transfer GPA for my major was a 3.73.</p>

<p>@football462</p>

<p>I applied as a Biochemistry and Molecular Biology major, which i believe is impacted (not entirely sure though). I think with your projected GPA above a 3.8, you should have a decent shot if the average GPA for your major was a 3.73 for out of state transfers. </p>

<p>As a heads up notes, as part of your UC application, it requires you to submit a first choice major and a second choice major. For your first choice, pick the major you definitely want to shoot for. But if you want to slightly increase your chances of getting accepted, for your second choice major, pick an alternate that has a lower GPA acceptance rate. That way, they may not accept you for your first choice, but you could still get in for your alternate.</p>

<p>UCLA and UCB only consider the alternative major if you are in the TAP program, I don’t think OOS people qualify for it. The other UCs consider both.</p>

<p>Ok so I used Stat Finder and found out this info for OOS transfer at UCB in the social sciences:</p>

<p>Average GPA (applicants): 3.57
Average GPA Accepted: 3.75
Average GPA Enrolled: 3.66</p>

<p>So even though the acceptance rate is low, the average GPA of out of state students enrolled is a 3.66. This means that a 3.67 with great extra curricular’s and great personal statements should at least have a chance right?</p>

<p>if you think so</p>

<p>@BostonBoy</p>

<p>Thank you for giving out good advice. My son is going to apply for UCB, UCLA and UCSD only from an east coast state satellite campus. GPA 3.5x after summer. Math major. UCB is a long short, LA is real target, any advice?</p>

<p>@SHSurprise</p>

<p>So out of curiosity I looked up the average GPA for accepted math majors and that number was about a 3.6. Although your son is pretty close to this GPA, this is for all applicants, meaning that your son should probably have a GPA slightly higher to still have a decent shot since he is an out of state applicant. I was looking at another related major that your son may consider as an alternate major, which is Mathematics of Computation. I don’t know much about this major, but you may want to take a look because fewer students apply for this major which may give you a better shot at acceptance. (don’t know for sure though)</p>

<p>Also, something that OOS applicants have to be very careful about is the course requirements for each major. Schools want to make sure all their incoming students have specific courses finished before coming into their school and if your list of requirements aren’t completely satisfied, it will greatly hurt your chances of acceptance so make sure the classes you need are completed by the time you apply. For me, the major I wanted to get accepted into had specific requirements that I wouldn’t be able to complete by the time I transfered so I opted for another related major which had less requirements.</p>

<p>Also, the personal statement and extra curricular activities are an essential aspect of the application so if your son has outstanding essays and outside activities, this will boost his chances of getting in.</p>

<p>Lastly, being an OOS applicant, UCB, UCLA and UCSD are not a clear shot in. I recommend applying to other backup schools such as Irvine, Davis or Santa Barbara if he is adamant about coming to a UC school. I mean all you really need to do is check off those schools when you are filling out your application. Since they are all under the same system, the application will be the same and no extra work is required, but I believe it’s an extra 50 or 60 dollars for each additional school? To be honest, I believe UCB, UCLA and UCSD are all reaches for you son at this point. Unless he brings his GPA up this summer or has an outstanding first semester this fall, I’d say he has less than a 50% chance of getting accepted in my opinion. But this is me ONLY looking at his GPA, so this is based on what I know about your son. But schools such as davis and irvine, I’d say he has better than a 50% chance of getting accepted. </p>

<p>I hope this helps! If you have any other questions, let me know</p>

<p>@BostonBoy</p>

<p>Thank you for the suggestion. I don’t know if he qualifies as “in state”. We live in California for the last twenty years. Paid enough state taxes. He went OOS to east coast fall of 2010. His GPA is 3.56 after this summer. He is certain to be at Penn State college park next fall. To us, other UCs are similar in terms of academic excellence. So he will only try UCB UCLA and UCSD. As you mentioned about prerequisites, he is on track of Penn State math program, but may not be able to satisfy all courses required. At UC admission site, I could not find clear list of what is required courses for math major before transfer. If you can kindly point us to the right direction, I would much appreciated.</p>

<p>these are the requirements for UCLA math majors:</p>

<p>[Transfer</a> Major Prep - Mathematics - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/lsmajors/math.htm]Transfer”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/lsmajors/math.htm)</p>

<p>i cant find Berkeley’s, but I would imagine they are similiar</p>

<p>i think your son would have a great chance at Davis/UCSD, they both have very high acceptance rates and accept a good number of out of state transfers. I knew someone (out of state) who had something like a 2.7 GPA after his first semester in college and was admitted to davis.
berkeley and UCLA will obviously be tough, but with california’s budget problems, more out of state students are being admitted. i think the transfer statistics by GPA are inflated because the vast majority of the students are from community colleges, where it is much easier to get a high GPA (compared to 4 year universities)</p>

<p>@perfect36</p>

<p>Thank you. It is very helpful</p>