Really upset.

<p>Is that not a Guarenteed Transfer to the college of your choice after like a year at another school?</p>

<p>Oh thanks Arjun. Does that mean you can go to any other school and how many undergrads are offered this?</p>

<p>Yes. You can go to any other school...the only condition is minimum GPA. i don't know how many guys get it...but i think its on the Cornell stats page.</p>

<p>Thanks. I was wondering what the whole deal with GT was.</p>

<p>haha at my school. there is this girl whose ranking adn sat score are lower than me and all my friends who applied to berkeley, but still got in and got like half of out of state tuition worth scholarship. her ranking was like 30 something adn berkeley don even take teacher recs so it's mostly based on numbers and essays. everyone was like whoaaaaa that's crazy</p>

<p>Thanks guys! I am in fact a GT if you didn't already read that somewhere else. If you get a packet explaining you are a GT the summary is pretty much that you have to maintain at least a 3.3 gpa at another college freshman year (I'm sure they have to approve the college in some way meaning that it can't just be the local community college. Besides for money reasons (which definitely are issues for many people, including me) someone going to Cornell should seek better than a community college anyways in order to further their lives). I also have to take at least 15 credits per semester and take a few core classes (for the ILR college). I then get the guaranteed transfer option which I can't wait for!!! The freshman class to the ILR is 151 people large, so they have obviously left some great people to go GT or on the waitlist or just plain rejected. -GT about 40-50 people.</p>

<p>And yes you can get a GT off of the waitlist, but since there are so few spots on it, being waitlisted doesn't mean that u will automatically become a GT (In fact many people say that being a GT is a better situation than being waitlisted). And only a certain number of the college even do GT.</p>

<p>My friend got GT'd. It's a very good opportunity.</p>

<p>I like to think that paleridden is angry at the process and about the seeming injustice therein, rather than lashing out at the individuals who were successful. Similar to how being mad that you didn't make it onto a sports team when other, less qualified players made the team doesn't necessarily mean that you're blaming said less qualified players for the decision. </p>

<p>In a reverse sort of example of this: I got into Bucknell University, and a seemingly much more qualified classmate of mine was waitlisted. As silly as it sounds, I'm rather upset about it, because I like to think that the admissions reflect some sort of merit or qualification, and because unfairness in general irks me. I would understand if the classmate was upset as well--upset about the seemingly unfair decision (if I was qualified to get in, why on earth wasn't she?), certainly not at me in particular.</p>

<p>Most people don't like to be unfairly discriminated against or passed over for something when they work hard to earn it, and if this were a clearcut "I got a better score but that person got an award because he was white and took the judges out to dinner", I'm sure that most of us would be sympathetic and outraged all at once. College admissions seems to be an area where decisions needn't make sense and should not be contested--demands for such are brushed off as sour grapes, apparently. It strikes me as a rather bitter irony that a decision as important and life-impacting as college admittance is made in such a nebulous manner, and that all of this is readily embraced.</p>

<p>For what it's worth, I sympathize with paleridden. Heckles, a little immaturity is almost a breath of fresh air amidst all of the faux support ("MUST... SMILE... AND BE HAPPY... FOR... EVERYONE... AT ALL... COSTS") that seems to go on these days; genuine frowns > fake smiles. </p>

<p>We should at least be permitted to be bluntly upset about this kind of thing on the Internerd, of all places.</p>

<p>I know someone who got into Harvard/Yale/Columbia and was waitlisted at NYU. If that doesn't prove that there is no rhyme or reason to these admissions, I don't know what will.</p>

<p>There could be an explanation for that. If a college gets an applicant that is AMAZING and they pretty much know that this was their safety college and they won't attend, then they might put this applicant on the waitlist and give someone a chance who would actually go. I mean hey...if he can get into Harvard than im sure NYU was never exactly his first choice and people at NYU could see that.</p>

<p>It distresses me to know that something (supposedly) this important is so very political in nature.</p>

<p>What are you upset about?</p>

<p>You got into Cornell! And so did he. It'a not as though he did, and you didn't (and even in that case, I would not complain).</p>

<p>If you do not like Cornell's standards at picking individuals, then maybe Cornell isn't the university for you.</p>

<p>Uh the OP wasn't accepted.</p>

<p>Whoops, I misread the first post, but I remain by my statement.</p>

<p>I'm always happy for my friends or fellow classmates who get into great schools. Being angry about it will get you nowhere.</p>

<p>quit ur whining. I hate arrogant people saying that they deserve to get in because they're more qualified. You know what? have you read the person's whole application? Of course not. Then what gives you the right to say anything like that? Quit whining and life goes on.</p>

<p>Miracle, I have seen the other's person application. That person is my friend and frankly I don't see what stood out so much about it. The art was AMAZING. That I do have to say. But the SAT's were realllly low (i mean like 1600/2400). I guess Cornell really drops SAT expectations for talented students.</p>

<p>I'm happy that our school's students are getting far. I'm just not happy that I worked so hard and now someone else is being recognized.</p>

<p>Maybe he retook them or had a high ACT score or is just a bad test taker but has GREAT everything else...lol I donno....Maybe the college just saw an amazing amount of raw talent in his art and want to make him into an amazing artist...who knows</p>

<p>Yea I mean he didn't do much better the second time around. His GPA and rank were really good, only second to mine ,but ECs, SAT and essay were not that good..at least not good enough for Cornell. The art, as I said is awesome but he's applying for architecture so it is somewhat of a change. And yeah, he has a sibling that goes to Cornell and he's a minority, so that def. should do something.</p>

<p>And to not get everyone angry-Obviously I don't believe that AA will get every minority applicant into college. You need to be smart to begin with and you have to be just as excellent as the next candidate. However, it does profit being a minority. Especially if you're applying to Cornell, that's set to expand its campus with a more diverse student body.</p>

<p>Ya maybe architecture probably liked his drawings...and about this whole AA thing...the conversation has been kinda annoying me.</p>

<p>AA is necessary overall, like people said, whites have had the advantage in the past and we need more diversity in the work place and at higher positions than there is right now. Now, say ur a minority, and a white person gets a position over you just because they are white, even tho u were better qualified. Now switch this situation with you being the white person and them being the minority...still annoyed?</p>