Regarding Prez. Bush

<p>i agree. (see im not close-minded ;) ) christianity sucks. so does religion. i agree 100% with ^^^^. i mean who has the right to determine those beliefs an if they should be followed. religion is just something for people to hold onto when they need help or comfort, basically security. therefore religion is nothing more than a good friend, something not necessary and someting that shouldnt be given as much power as it has toay</p>

<p>exactly...it's more of a set of "individual guidelines," whereas law is a set of "collective guidelines." Religion suits some but not others...it's very specific....law should be diverse and general.</p>

<p>wow thats wierd we agree on something</p>

<p>if you're a conservative, you'll agree with me on a number of things...i think we just had some temporary hatred towards eachother.</p>

<p>like i said...tho im conservative im very open-minded...just passionate</p>

<p>yeah i'm pretty moderate and open-minded....I'll support liberals if they're presenting a coherent view and backing it up with valid information...i'm pretty liberal in some aspects, but my conservatism outweighs my liberalism, so I consider myself a Republican.</p>

<p>yeah...like i loathe welfare an AA, but support abortion and giving more money to schools and giving government officals less. def. believe in hands off business tho, laiissez faire rules.</p>

<p>wat? why do u loathe AA?</p>

<p>"lol....okay. what's the rational argument against giving 14 year olds a drivers license? there is none. its only somoneones OPINION. So basically you are trying to prove yourself right by sayinging someting totally irrevelant."</p>

<p>Since when is applying logic to a situation irrelevant? BTW, 14 year olds don't have driver's licenses because they would be prone to getting in wrecks and killing people. Additionally, since they're minors, we've decided that they haven't gained the maturity necessary to take a risk like that. See? Rationality. Even "opinions," as you've called them, must have some kind of basis in order ot become law. Basing a law on your religion (as people do with gay marriage) is, in my book, as irrelevant as basing it on nothing.</p>

<p>Whatever happened to "my religion is none of your business"?</p>

<p>AA sucks. i think its funny how people feel they deserve certain treatment because they feel they deserve and are underpriveleged. lol. yet they get mad when they are discriminated against. let me use an example with trying to offend anyone. okay theres this blue colored man. he feels he should be given a better chance and whatnot in getting into college just because he is blue, hence giving us status-quos. tho its illegeall thanks to bakke, it is still around, its just not called status quo. it sucks because its reverse discrimination. and then when the blue guy gets into the college and they try to put the all the disadvantaged blue people together, they get mad that they are being discriminated against. but if it werent for discriminiation in the first place, they wouldnt be at lets say stanford. thats why aa sucks. it sets quos that only hurt the american people as a WHOLE</p>

<p>please don't start on AA...i hate it, and we've gone through 2 threads on the topic...both of which were shut down...</p>

<p>ohh lol im dumb I didnt know which AA you were talking about i though you meant alcoholics anonymous hahahhhaahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahhaahahahahahaaahahaahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahahaahahhhaahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahhaahahahahahaaahahaahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahaha</p>

<p>How old are you? ;)</p>

<p>psht I wish i knew</p>

<p>I am more conservative than liberal, but what an idiot! Maybe they dont have newspaper or internet service around his ranch in TX to prevent such a stereotyping</p>

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[quote=Financial Time on May 31, 2005]
In Moscow the other day, Observer's man on the ground happened to be standing nearby when President George W. Bush and the first lady bumped into Manmohan Singh, India's prime minister, as they waited their turn to be seated for an official lunch.</p>

<p>Turning to his wife, Bush said: "Laura, you gotta meet Man-mo-han Singh from India. It's a democracy with the largest Muslim population in the world, and you know what, there is not a single member of Al-Qaeda among them. Isn't that fantastic?"</p>

<p>Observer could not catch the Sikh's rather quieter reply. But he and India's 140m Muslims will be hoping Bush overcomes his cultural stereotyping before they welcome him on his official visit to India at the end of the year.

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<p>stereotypes rule my friend. they can save your ass.</p>

<p>Unless of course it's your ass that's being stereotyped, eh z2thay?</p>

<p>Okay, after reading seven pages of discussion, I am bursting with opinions:</p>

<p>"Gay marriage." Firstly, what exactly is marriage? Is it NOT an inherently religious ceremony? Based on that, the government recognition of marriage has everything to do with religion. I am opposed to government recognition of gay marriages and extending "marriage" licenses to them. In fact, I oppose the very concept of a "marriage license" because marriage itself is a religious institution. I am in full support of civil unions, as there is no reason to deny rights to the bond of love.</p>

<p>However trying to legally recognize gay marriages, as well as to discount religion, is to completely and utterly disregard centuries of society's values. Not even just religious values, but ethical values. This country is at a point of an ethics crisis where selfishness is running rampant (see: Napster, Kazaa, Enron, Worldcom). I am not saying that homosexuals are evil, honestly I believe to each his/her own. Allowing gay marriage weakens the authority of religions, and with an absence of religion, where are the ethical principles for people to follow?</p>

<p>It bothers me to see the Bible demeaned so severely on this thread, such as equating it with a napkin. That is a simple utter lack of respect for millions, or rather, billions of people across the globe who believe in its truth. It's like flushing the Quran down a toilet. Same principle here. And as for saying that the Bible justifies slavery, please point out the verses, because it seems the continent of Africa has missed that part.</p>

<p>And to close: Bush is an ass-clown.</p>

<p>I always thought that marriage was the union between two people (traditionally, it's between a man and a woman). I don't really see how it is strictly a religious ceremony; perhaps you could explain. I know that for many people, it IS a religious ceremony ("married before the eyes of God" in a church), however, that doesn't mean it is for everyone. </p>

<p>If marriage was strictly a religious ceremony, then what about the people who are not religious/are atheist? Does that mean that they can not marry? Also, some marriages are performed by the state/province. I know my parents were not married in a church but simply received their marriage certificate in a government office.</p>

<p>Why should we allow religions to dictate what will or will not be allowed in society as a whole? I have no problem with religion; I believe that everyone has a right to follow their own beliefs. But I don't think that it should dictate the lives of everyone. Not everyone is Catholic, or Christian, or Muslim, etc. To impose the beliefs of one religion on a whole country would not be fair. </p>

<p>For many years in the US, inter-racial marriages were illegal because it was "against God's will." Now that people are allowed to marry any ethnic group that they please, does that mean it got rid of "ethical principles for people to follow"?</p>

<p>For one thing, the word "marriage" was invented by a church. I think we should just get rid of marriage licenses altogether and give couples (and families) financial benefits. thats equality.</p>

<p>Comparing sexuality to race seems like a double standard to me. Liberals always contend that homosexuality isn't genetic, it's not a choice, it's not influenced by surroundings. So tell me, why is the male cheerleader at my school, or one of my high school's alums who's going to Yale attracted to males while I am not? Seems like race is inherited.</p>