<p>Well the ride is over. Son just opened his rejection letter a few minutes ago. 3 nominations and nothing. He has a NROTC Scholarship To Georgia Tech which is a great! Good luck everyone!</p>
<p>Dad54 - Same for us. S got his rejection letter yesterday and also had three nominations. He has USMA and USAFA appointments, as well as NROTC to Embry-Riddle. I'd like for him to move on with great "Plan B's"....he wants to try again for 2013.</p>
<p>GT with NROTC is fantastic option! I am sorry he didn't get an appointment. These kids who apply are something special, kudos to him for giving it his best effort. May he enjoy continued success.</p>
<p>Milmom- You son has fantastic options as well. I wish him all the best, but again, am sorry for this letdown. Such a tough year due to sheer numbers for all kids of '08.</p>
<p>got the thin white envelope today for USNA....USMA here i come</p>
<p>Champs,
Welcome to the party. We'll be a small - BUT SILENT - group there. :) See you in June.</p>
<p>Nah, there are a lot of cadets turning down USNA to go to USMA! = )</p>
<p>Hang on guys, it's guaranteed to be a wild ride!</p>
<p>But only as compared to about a three times as many who are turning down USMA for USNA.</p>
<p>^^^^^
Ditto.</p>
<p>Do you think all these military agencies communicate with each other? Probably not, but I think it is interesting that one door gets closed but another is left open for many candidates; e.g. you don't get USNA, but you do get USMA, or you get a full boat ROTC scholarship but no SA appt's. It seems to me by reading these boards that not many are getting completely denied for some type of military career.</p>
<p>I know DODMERB posted my son accepting NROTC scholarship back in October. All branches of the military have people working there which I'm sure have access to database and could pass on to their people. There are possibly several things taken into consideration that we don't know about but they consider as part of the whole process.</p>
<p>best of luck to all-
carpe diem- no matter where you end up!!!</p>
<p>Good luck everyone! I'm a two time applicant, and I have no regrets about where the road took me! Second time was the charm -- NROTC and USNA.... =D</p>
<p>"But only as compared to about a three times as many who are turning down USMA for USNA."</p>
<p>Do you have a source for those numbers? It would be interesting to see the data.</p>
<p>I'd speculate that 69er's on the $. He's rarely caught with his sails down when the wind comes up.</p>
<p>I think he made it up. Voodoo admissions statistics. More feel good stats so Navy can feel good about themselves. Helps their self esteem.
West Point has a higher yield than USNA - for one. Probably very few kids who Rank West Point as their first choice bother applying to USNA. They prefer Army ROTC because they don't want the Navy. More kids who want Navy apply to both.</p>
<p>Ann, sorry I don't have a link. It is just data that has been passed out over the years at various briefings. The most recent set of data which I have is for, I think, the Classes of 2009 and showed 140 candidates being accepted at both academies, with 106 choosing USNA. For the past 10 years that I have been associated with the admissions process, this has been fairly consistent, both total quantity and percentages.</p>
<p>JAMO4, do you have any sources for any of your above statements?</p>
<p>I stand corrected. MY apologies for claiming "voodoo admissions statistics".</p>
<p>This year US News and World Report published yield statistics for LAC's - West Point came out on top with Navy close behind. All other schools were pretty far back from what I recall. USMA's yield was 83% meaning that 83% of all applicants who were offered appointments accepted them.<br>
USNA's yield was 81%. Only the top 5 were above 50% - they were all "niche" schools who attract a certain applicant who is focused on attending.
This makes these two schools the two most "popular" LAC's.</p>
<p>I know all midshipman like to think they would have been offered appointments at USMA as well - perhaps they would have but the data shows not many are offered appointments to both.</p>
<p>I think the US News report is an anomaly. USNA’s yield for the Class of 2011 is 85%. Unfortunately, USMA does not publish like data so it is impossible to ascertain which years they used for the comparison. Probably 2009 or 2010, since USNA’s yield during both these years was 81%. According to CGO, something to do with the Iraqi war. For the remainder of the past 10 years, it has been in the 84%-87% range.</p>
<p>Yields in the 80%-85% range account for 200-300 who do not accept appointments to each particular SA. One hundred choosing one over the other, given the nature of those who apply, is definitely within the realm of these statistics.</p>
<p>And JAMO4, I continue to fail to see where data gathered from a good marketing plan has anything to do with ‘self esteem’ and/or ‘feeling good’ about oneself, not that there is anything wrong, in themselves, with either of these attributes.</p>
<p>Thanks USNA69 - do you have comparison numbers from before the GWOT. It would be interesting to see what effect that has had. </p>
<p>I always find it interesting that candidates who have their heart set on USNA and a Naval career will accept a USMA appointment (and visa versa). I would have thought that ROTC would be a better backup plan. That being said, I have nothing but respect for all of the young men and women who make the commitment to attend an Academy - and wish them all the best!</p>
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<p>I agree. Two things are at work here - kids are being advised to apply to several academies when they show interest in one. IMO - while they should be encouraged to investigate the different branches of military service, if one is a clear choice then they should go with that choice.</p>
<p>The one clear exception here is the issue that some kids have with medical waivers. Some waivers will be waived by some services and not others. Unfortunately, there is usually no way of knowing how the waiver situation will turn out until you go through the process.</p>