Rejections: Class of 2007

<p>Kayla, what do you mean by "the major I was accepted to?" Boston College is a liberal arts school and I do not believe you must commit to a major ahead of time and are not admitted INTO a major (I have a child in a liberal arts university and while she mentioned what major she was interested in, she didn't have to commit ahead of time, nor was admitted INTO the major). Which major are you talking about? Are you sure you can't study theater? There is no audition to get into BC for theater. I have a student who applied there for theater this year, in fact. I also just saw that they are putting on Candide this month. </p>

<p>I guess I don't get the "major is full" thing at a BA liberal arts school. What major were you accepted "into"? Just trying to understand. </p>

<p>(and yes, something will work out and it always does!)</p>

<p>By chance were you admitted to the School of Nursing?</p>

<p>umm..ok...i think i said that a bit wrong..lol..im going call Boston and see what can happen, but becuase of the school i applied ot and got accepted into 'School of Nursing' it is now apparently too late to want to do BA in theatre...the same thing happened with Ithaca for me...I got inot the school of health and human performance...and i called today and asked about BA, and if i could be switched into that school which is the school of 'Humanities and sciences' and do the BA major, and i was told it wasnt possible because the major had been fillied, and i guess i understand that, cause it is abit late...but she said that i could do the exploratory program...so yea, thats the problem...i guess if i would of spoken up before about boston, i might of been able to, im still trying thoough...
yea and thats why i thought it would be easy to get inot it...beuase its nonaudition..but i dont know..im still trying..</p>

<p>and i guess whatever happens for me next year...i plan on reauditioning for atleast three schools, cause i would love to go through the whole process again, but this time be more prepared etc. i had fun this year doing it and would love to reaudition next year and see what happens, and much further i would be with the training i get this year...</p>

<p>thanks soozie</p>

<p>OK, NOW I get it! :D</p>

<p>I had no idea you applied to the School of Nursing at BC. So, yes, being accepted to that school is not quite the same as being accepted to the College of Arts and Sciences (liberal arts). Had you applied for Liberal Arts, you would have had the freedom to major in theater, do pre med, ANYTHING! Same with at Ithaca. I did not realize you had applied to a specialized school at these colleges. Ideally, having BA back up schools that offer theater as a major (not the same schools that also have the BFA) would give more options. Still, I am sure you can figure out which option of yours is best for you. You can go to college and take general education classes, any theater classes you may be able to get into, try to still take voice and dance, and reaudition in the future. You can even take a year off and do training. If you are hoping to audition for a BFA a second time, it will be important to train in some capacity wherever you are next year and so do look into which opportunities for that would be available to you both on campus or nearby. Good luck.....keep exploring your options and things will come together.</p>

<p>PS, I don't know if your parents would be into this or not, but considering the issue for you has been a lack of training, could you do a year at Circle in the Square or something similar and reaudition for college BFA programs next year? You could also defer your admissions a year at some of the BA schools that accepted you and if you don't get into any BFA's next year after a year of training, your same BA school would be waiting if you asked to defer your enrollment for a year (and actually ideally next year, you'd have a more balanced college list and include some BA in theater schools in case).</p>

<p>kayla -- also, at IC you would have to interview for the BA. there is no audition, but to be admitted there is a required interview, you can't just switch into the major.</p>

<p>There are some plusses if you were to take a gap year to train. One is that you would have more training and preparation to increase your chances at competitive BFA admissions. You mention a lack of training and so this can only help. Another plus is that if you go to these other colleges for a year, then you become a transfer applicant to BFA programs. As you may know, it is even HARDER to get in as a transfer into a BFA. Some schools don't take transfers. Those that do, take very very few (worse odds than freshman BFA admissions). And some that take transfers make you start over as a freshman and in those instances, that means five years of college. I am not sure your parents' financial situation (and no need to even tell me it) but that is a more costly route to take. Further, if you are not successful in a BFA transfer, you are left at one of these BA schools which you are currently admitted to (which appear to have many limitations theater-wise), that frankly do not sound as ideal compared to if you were to attend the many BA schools that offer a theater major, dance, music, etc. where you could actually study theater, let alone not be up against a BFA on the same campus. So, if you were to take a gap year, you could train intensely for a year (either in lessons or some program such as Circle in the Square or even AMDA or others), and then next year apply to some BFA programs (with a range of artistic odds of admission...not the same exact list you had this year) and also apply to some really good BA schools that offer either MT or Theater, where you could still study theater and even concurrently take the requisite pre med courses should you desire. I thought I would put that out there to you.</p>

<p>Kayla,
You want to be either a broadway performer, a nurse or a doctor?! Wow! You are amazing! It sounds like you applied to an incredible number of schools. It's hard enough to keep it all straight if you are only applying to one area of study, let alone two or three! Your parents were very generous to allow you to apply to all of those programs. It's not free and it is a very laborious process. Good luck and keep us posted, I'm really rooting for you and I'm anxious to hear where you "land." Boston College is a fine school and you are very fortunate to have been accepted there. I have a good friend who is a professor in the theatre department. I don't want to give his name on the general board, but if you want to pm me, I'll give you his name. He's a great guy and he might be able to help.</p>

<p>Kayla the clouds will clear, your options are growing, your decisions will get made soone enough. AND congratz for getting into such a difficult (highly selective) school. I worked there for a year, and was very impressed with the caliber and warmth of the student body. I don't know anything about their theater program, but it sounds like you can work something out with your parents and the schools that will hopefully please everyone.</p>

<p>Thanks you guys...and ive thought about taking a year off...but my parents arent going for it atall...they want me to be in school...i dont midn sarting over as a freshman, im just worried with the odds of getting into a school as a transfer...how many transfers do schools normally take? is it really that much harder?</p>

<p>It is harder for BFA transfers, yes. How many they take varies from school to school. </p>

<p>In proposing a year off, you could have it be EDUCATIONAL.....do a program like Circle in the Square or AMDA or piece together various things in NYC for training. If the goal is to try again next year for a BFA, then the decision now is what will get you there? A year of training? Studying a BA at a school that won't let you major in theater? Having to apply next year as a transfer where the odds are much slimmer in BFA programs and some won't take transfers at all and some make you start over and pay more in doing so? You CAN be in school this coming year. Devise an educational plan that suits your goals. Perhaps that is at a four year college and perhaps that educational plan is in a training program of some sort. A BA school with a theater degree program might have been a good option but I am not sure that option is available to you but keep asking those schools. If you were not accepted into liberal arts, but into some specialty school, that may be more difficult (ie., Boston College, Ithaca).</p>

<p>The other thing is to not make BFA your ultimate goal. You could try to go to a college where you can take courses in theater, voice, and dance, and also participate in productions, etc. Many people go into the theater world coming out of such backgrounds too. If you want a BFA NEXT year, then what you do this coming year might need adjusting. If you are simply looking for a college education and many paths can lead you to pursue theater in your life, then the options widen.</p>

<p>Kayla, I'm a transfer student, and for BFA's it's so much harder to get into as a transfer. It doesn't really matter what school you end up at, if it's one of the top schools, or one that hardly any people know of, because it's the determination of the person, the school doesn't make the you successful, it's yourself who does.</p>

<p>Amen, Broadwaybelle!</p>

<p>im so confused with what to do now..lol...</p>

<p>cause i dont know if i can just take a year off, i have nowhere to stay in NYC...and apprently it seems to be a risk to go to a BA school for a year, cause i might not be able to get inot a school when i transfer..
so im so lost and stuck...lol</p>

<p>This thread has become so eery, as I've been thinking of nursing as an alternate path for Kayla. In the essence of full disclosure, I am a registered nurse. So, now I learn Kayla's applied to nursing school :0 </p>

<p>Obviously Kayla, you do have some affinity for the healing sciences. I might add that you definitely have the personality needed. Nursing offers great flexibility (for an actor or a future mother) that medicine does not. Also, in a liberal arts environment you would most likely have the opportunity to take theatre/voice/dance courses along with the science/nursing. Afterward (with a nursing license in hand), you could move onward to an MFA or to professional training like Circle in the Square. Nurses can work quite like substitute teachers on a daily basis. The pay is fantastic (especially in NYC), thought the work is difficult. You could work and pay your way through postgraduate training and/or while auditioning. </p>

<p>So many choices for you!!</p>

<p>This winter I helped with the auditions for a summer program, and we heard numerous young (25-35 year old) singers who have excellent day jobs, nurses, attorneys, speech pathologists, bank auditiors, etc....they sang beautifully, they all can afford their ongoing study, and they find a way to take lots of auditions (many quite successfully). While training is important, having a life and options is very necessary, too. You are not restricted by the degree program you enter, but rather your opportunities will be determined by your energy and talent. Good luck!</p>

<p>Is it harder for International students to get accepted into American BFA programs? Are the spots more limited?</p>

<p>MichelleV, </p>

<pre><code> I don't think they care if you're from Mars as long as you knock their socks off at the audition!
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<p>thanks everyone for your help/consideration on new paltz!! if anyone hears anything more about their program, PM me. thank you!!</p>

<p>and if i were to get off the waitlist at muhlenberg, which would be a better choice? muhlenberg or ba in musical theatre at new paltz?</p>

<p>sorry if this question is under the wrong thread! you can PM me the answer if it is off topic to this thread!</p>

<p>Brodwaygirl89 your going to have a great year next year...im always here for you!!</p>

<p>ok..so this is what im going to do...taking a year off doesnt seem to be an option for me, cause even though i would be able to get training and it would be cheaper...my parents still see it as a waste of a year....unless im acutally in some kind of school or training facility..so...today im going to call BW and ask them what training including the prvate voice lessons, could i get in the first year in their BA program and how much it would cost...so im going to get all the facts...then im going to get on the phone and call Gary Kline, or Claudia Benack from CMU..preferably both, because they had asked me to call and update them with colleges..and they are very good at giving me opinions...so im goin to call and ask their decisions and opinions on what i should do with what school etc. should i do medicine and do soemthing outside..and then their feelings on me reauditioning..I know claudia form the very beginning had told me to go a university and train for a year and then she felt that more universities would take me..but gary i guess always though i would have no problem getting in places in my first year.. so i will see what they say now and i definetly trust everything that they will tell me as they have helped me before, and then i will go from there...this is so confusing and its getting down to May 1st soon!..</p>

<p>thank you guys for all your help!</p>

<p>Do you not live near a community college? I know the college near my house offers dance, voice, and acting classes during the day, and if your school offered such a thing, you could get school and training in one and work the rest of the day. It may seem like a waste of a year to not go to school, but if you're only taking musical theatre classes to prepare yourself for a 4-year BFA program, you're ultimately wasting money in the long run. This, though, is if you do have a good community college near you.</p>

<p>hey alfie.. yea i understand what your saying but because of where im from..i cant..also if i went to college next year..i woudnt only be taking MT classes...i would also take liberal arts classes..unless i was accepted into a BFA program....but if i go to a BA program..i will also definetly be taking liberal arts...</p>

<p>and thats the problem with Barbados and why im trying to get off of the island...that also my main problem with taking a year off....there is no training here...there is nothing..its just a small island, that is a paradise and very good with academics and sports..it has no training...ive spent the last 2 years here trying to find a voice teacher with no luck...so in order to get training i have to get off the island..lol..and get into a school....where i could either get training outside the school and close by, or inside the school...getting any training atall for me next year, would be a big thing for me....cause ive never been trained....except for 6 wees at CMU and that did wonders for me..lol...so thats what im trying to work out...and im trying to get everything together before i make an decision...but thank you for advice...im working on it..lol</p>