A report was released today. So many failures on so many levels. When listening to a security analyst on CNN , what struck me was her analysis about the lack of urgency from the initial responders on the scene (not moving in quickly to engage the shooter), the lack of anyone taking charge , lack of communication between all these different responders from multiple agencies on the scene. There were over 300 responders on the scene to take out one shooter! The security analyst said part of the problem was that what should have been viewed as an active shooter situation (engage and take him out quickly) became viewed as a barricade situation. So, you had tons of people just doing nothing until someone finally took charge and moved in. Tragic all the way around.
We have had guns in this country since the beginning and have not always had this problem with mass shootings like we are having now. Obviously, there is something more going on and we need to address the root problem not just the tools used.
Our country hasn’t had easy access to automatic and semiautomatic rifles since the beginning.
The population of the US has grown a bit too.
Like muskets? 
I am all for releasing the videos and making politicians look at the photos of the scene and autopsies. They need to see what these weapons are doing to our kids. They want to defend the rights of an 18 yr old to buy these weapons, then you should have to sit there and watch what they do to the body.
Ok, maybe in the beginning, but semi-automatic weapons have been available since the 1800’s I believe and the much talked about AR-15 has been available to the public since the 1960’s. I graduated high school in 1991 and never had to worry about school shootings at that time. My older brother often had a rifle in a gun rack on the back glass of his pickup, as did many others. They would often go hunting in the morning and then come to school. Something has changed in the last 30 years or so and we need to be figuring out what that is and dealing with it.
Sure! In the meantime, let’s get rid of the tool to some reasonable, regulated degree. Cause without the tool- a high powered gun, a SHOOTING doesn’t happen
The big shift/spike seems to have happened in the 1980s but we’ve unfortunately had a history of school shootings since the beginning: History of School Shootings in the United States | K12 Academics
The semiautomatic of 1885 is not in anyway comparable to the semiautomatic and automatic weapons of today, including the introduction of bump stocks and high-capacity magazines. Like you, I grew up in an environment where we drove trucks with gun racks to school. I want to be clear that I am knowledgeable about guns and am a gun owner myself. I also am the parent of a survivor of the Route 91 massacre in Las Vegas in 2017.
I don’t want to make this thread about gun ownership, even through this kid’s choice of weapons obviously is part of the problem here both in terms of the number of deaths and the reluctance of law enforcement to take him on. I want the thread to stay open so that we can continue to shine a light on what’s happening (and isn’t happening) in Uvalde.
This just in … it’s a start.
How many mass killing events have we had in the US with chemical and nuclear weapons?
Is it such a low number because everyone is the US is of perfect mental health or is it because, in defiance of the 2nd amendment, we don’t allow private citizens access to those arms?
The TV was invented. And 24 hour news and the internet was launched in 1980’s. Computers were invented.
Shooters can become famous or infamous now much easier than the 1800’s or 1900’s. And technology is constantly changing too.
According to the press conference in Uvalde right now, all 3 exterior doors of the elementary school were unlocked.
Every country on earth has disconnected, disaffected, sociopathic young men who have been failed by society in countless ways.
In no other country can such people buy $6,000 of military grade weapons without anyone batting an eyelash.
It’s the guns.
Second video has been released, this time one of the officer’s bodycam video. The mayor releasing it on the day of the official press conference by the House committee makes me even more suspicious. It feels like a deflection – “look over here!” But I’m pretty jaded at this point.
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I follow Nelba Marquez-Greene on Twitter. Her daughter, Ana Grace, died in the shooting at Sandy Hook. Before following her, I thought the parents should release the autopsy pictures, too. But she makes the point that she doesn’t want her daughter’s google results to be pictures of her dead body–and that’s too much to ask for her as a survivor. I agree. Instead of asking what victims and survivors can do or give up to help the problem, we should find responsibility elsewhere.
I don’t think they should be released to the public, just make our Senators look at them.
I wouldn’t trust any U.S. Senator with my business card, let alone the pictures of dead children. Those photos would be online within the hour.