<p>When it comes to UCLA's reputation to employers and grad schools, I've heard it's been way overblown and that a good grad school or employer would be rather indifferent to a UCLA applicant.</p>
<p>I for one don't believe this, but I would like to hear some more qualified comments.</p>
<p>I disagree. Adcoms know how good UCLA students are. So do corporate recruiters. Just take a look at the companies who recruit at UCLA. UCLA is one of the best schools in the US. It is somewhere around number 15 or so (no less than 20). Why in the world would companies and grad schools ignore this school and limit themselves to the very few schools that are better? If that were the case, supply would not equal demand. Can anyone honestly say that 98% or so of the schools that are less than or equal to UCLA in terms of quality or prestige are left out in the grad school and job markets?</p>
<p>Depending on how you measure, UCLA is generally regarded in the top 20 to top 30 universities and it's one of the top four public U's (with Berkeley, Michigan, Virginia). No way is it looked down upon by grad schools or employers.</p>
<p>only mediocre by elitist views and those who think public education is crap just cuz they can afford a private school. for those who know better, ucla by far does not deserve to be called mediocre.</p>
<p>UCLA is a sweet school. Most non Californians know that there are a lot of smart people at UCLA who can compete with any ivy league students, but most of them have west coast bias, and try to think as negatively as possible about California because they secretly wished they moved here.</p>
<p>We need to foment an East-coast bias to counterbalance this trend... from now on, whenever someone outside of California asks us about an East-coast school, we'll respond with our own blend of haughty ignorance! "Huh? Brown? Never heard of it - you must have been talking about Berkeley or something. MIT? There's only one presitigious tech school that goes by an acronym in these here parts, and that's CIT..."</p>
<p>"UCLA is a brand name." yeah, UCLA owns because its one of the few schools that is a household name in terms of academics AND athletics! Go Bruins!</p>
<p>Actually Californians, esp southern ones, have their own ignorance (though probably not for elitist reason). I am in LA and a lot of people here don't know Northwestern when its ranked 20 spots above USC and has a peer assessment of 4.4 according to US News. LOL!</p>
<p>I haven't seen a section of the country yet that hasn't had a fair number of posters displaying ignorance and provincialism about Elsewhere. There are some here in SoCal who think of Phoenix as "back East." <rolls eyes=""></rolls></p>
<p>There is no East Coast bias. Stanford and Caltech are widely recognized on the East Coast for being great universities. Likewise, West Coasters acknowledge great East Coast universities like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and MIT. </p>
<p>Just becuase East Coasters don't know about good, but not great universities like the UCs or University of Southern California, it doesnt mean they are being elitist or ignorant. I know many people on the west coast who don't know about Dartmouth and the University of Penn. If you ask me, there is a huge West Coast bias already. How can people in California know about a school like UCLA and not know about a school like the University of Pennsylvania, which is ranked 20 spots ahead? How many west coasters know about great schools like Swarthmore, Wellesley, Williams, and Middlebury? </p>
<p>People in glass houses should not throw stones.</p>
<p>I definitely know UPenn. Also know Williams in the beautiful Berkshire, the academically intense Swarthmore, and Wellesley (college for further First wife?). Funny how foreigners like me sometime know more about American colleges than many Americans :)</p>
<p>Sam Lee, a caution: some one who posts about thinking of Wellesley as a place to find First wife may find himself with No wife. And don't try Smith, either.</p>
<p>"Actually Californians, esp southern ones, have their own ignorance (though probably not for elitist reason). I am in LA and a lot of people here don't know Northwestern when its ranked 20 spots above USC and has a peer assessment of 4.4 according to US News. LOL!"</p>
<p>thats cuz northwestern sux in football and gets owned by the pac10. jk jk ;)</p>
<p>but anyway, you have to understand that the average american are not the same type of ppl who post on CC. the average american either only hears about schools with exceptional academics, or otherwise, schools that perform well in athletics. otherwise, all they get is local coverage of sports. i have to agree, most west coasters have never heard of brown (sorry to pick on it, its a great school though), but then again, if u picked some average person in NYC, that person might not have heard of brown (or caltech, for that matter) either! </p>
<p>theres regional bias everywhere, especially with the media, specifically in sports, which plays a big role in shaping regional opinions. Texas A&M gets a lot of respect in texas, but no love anywhere else. similarily, average west coasters appreciate UCLA/USC more than dartmouth or williams or penn (what, penn state? haha). hmm... sports play such a big role in shaping opinions on colleges that most average southern californians dont even know what/where/how good pomona college is!!! (what, cal poly pomona?)</p>
<p>"Sam Lee, a caution: some one who posts about thinking of Wellesley as a place to find First wife may find himself with No wife. And don't try Smith, either."</p>
<p>LOL! TheDad, you sound like you are Japanese..lol. J/K!</p>
<p>The first well-known (among the Chinese at least) person I knew that went to Wellesley was the former First Lady of president of the Republic of China (not the People's Republic of China) before I heard about Hillary Clinton. She became the second woman to address the US Congress in 1942.</p>