Research Science Institute (RSI) 2014

<p>@abriboi: It appears that they got rid of the drop-down menu altogether.</p>

<p>@mathjj: No, that’s not how it works at all – I’m a little concerned at how my answers are being drastically misinterpreted… What you describe seems like it would be a waste of time for both the student and the mentor, and not very exciting for the student.
RSI students are basically treated as another member of the lab, doing the work that an undergraduate or graduate student would normally be doing. You’ll be diving into the unknown, trying to discover or prove or build something that’s never been done before. That’s what makes research so exhilarating! :slight_smile: Since there’s not a lot of time at RSI (4ish weeks of actual research time), most projects that RSI students do are portions/subsets of a larger project that the lab is working on. These are important, and original, contributions nonetheless, and RSI students often receive co-authorship on resulting papers published by the lab. It’s amazing how much work RSI students can get done in so little time.<br>
Some RSI final papers from past years are available online [url=&lt;a href=“http://web.mit.edu/rsi/www/2013/advice/examples/]here[/url”&gt;RSI 2014 > Advice > Examples]here[/url</a>] (keep in mind that these papers represent 4 weeks of research, were written over the course of only a couple weeks, and that RSI students often significantly revise/improve their papers for submission to research competitions or for publication after RSI).</p>

<p>I have three questions.
For the essays, the directions say to limit the response to 1-2 paragraphs. My writing style, however, required a third paragraph. The essay itself is still just half a page, so I have room for my other essays. I’m just concerned the admissions overseers will see three paragraphs and get ****ed/trash my app. Or they may get annoyed and that may hurt me.</p>

<p>I am heavily involved in math and science ECs, but I had little room to discuss math. I’m not applying for a math field anyway, so I’m not including it in my essays. My rec letters are from math teachers and they’ll fill in the gaps I couldn’t reach. Is this a bad strategy?</p>

<p>Finally, I know this question has been asked before, but this thread is so vast and I forgot the response. Is the 1-2 pages for accomplishments/awards separate from the essays? If not, then I have serious editing to do…</p>

<p>^same as FierceTiger, can we go over the 1-2 paragraph suggestion? Because looking at my app right now, I’d probably have to smush about 3 paragraphs into one to fit it (whoops)</p>

<p>@FierceTiger, the 1-2 accomplishments/awards is separate</p>

<p>@LuoSciOly</p>

<p>Thanks, your response is appreciated :)</p>

<p>To anybody on this thread:
For essay question 7, can I write about an independent work in which I modeled a phenomenon using pen-on-paper math rather than computing? It was a fairly legitimate project that took a couple of months to finish.</p>

<p>Would my application to RSI be jeopardized if there aren’t many researchers at MIT who specialize in my field of interest? That is, do only people who work at MIT supervise the research at RSI, or should I not be concerned about the impact of my specific field of interest on my application?</p>

<p>I’m wondering, for the question asking about your skills with programming and modeling, what do they mean by modeling? I’m skilled with 3D modeling in software like Autodesk Inventor and Solidworks but I’m not sure if that’s what they mean.</p>

<p>Does anyone know if the list of achievements/awards is included in the 3 pages?
Also, I’m really interested in biomedicine (cardiology) and cellular biology (cell communication/stem cells). Are they distinct enough to be considered subfields?</p>

<p>@SJSF01, @Daedalus3140: I’m pretty sure that whatever you write can’t hurt, as long as it isn’t completely unrelated to the question.</p>

<p>@Justong: I don’t know for sure, but I think whatever field of interest you choose, it has to at least be available at MIT; otherwise, you’d probably get assigned to another field.</p>

<p>@academicnut: no. Question 9 is not included, as I mentioned above. I’m not super sure about your second question so I’ll leave that for someone else to pick up.</p>

<p>Quick question from me though: For the extracurricular questions, should we mention all current extracurriculars (with brief description) or just a few (with in-depth description)?</p>

<p>@academicnut</p>

<p>Everything you mentioned - biomedicine, cellular biology, cardiology, cell communication, and stem cell research - is a subfield under biology. Even though the last three are more sub-subfields, they should each still be acceptable as a subfield (just choose two in the end haha). However, all of them are probably too specific to be considered fields. Anybody please correct me if I’m wrong, but you should probably change one of these subfields so that it fits a different field, since the application asks for two distinct fields of interest. Perhaps you can work one of your interests in as a subfield of chemistry? </p>

<p>Sorry if this was confusing.</p>

<p>wait… so biomedicine and cellular biology aren’t disparate enough to be separate fields?
goddamn
hmm… could cellular regeneration be counted as tissue engineering? would that be separate enough?</p>

<p>@science2015
I would say it depends on how you view your involvement with these extracurriculars. If it is important to you that you’re doing a whole bunch of stuff, talk about that. If there are 2 or 3 activities that are most important to you and you think would nicely highlight you as an applicant, speak in-depth about those. They ask you to describe your involvement, so this is how I would interpret it. I hope that makes sense.</p>

<p>Guys, is it worth my time filling out this application? QQ I’m 100% sure I won’t get in already just looking at it… I have no awards whatsoever except for one 1st place at PJAS (state science fair) in 8th grade and History Day, for which I only got to the regional level and never made it to states. Plus I haven’t taken any of the courses they have on that sheet except for AP Comp Sci (5), AP Calc AB, AP Chem, and honors bio. I only know 4 of the programming languages too, and only at intermediate levels presuming AP-level Java would be intermediate. >_< My PSAT didn’t go so well this year either (214). I have a 4.0 and have been in orchestra 8 years and am in honors although I haven’t made it to district/states, and I’m on the debate (varsity) and mock trial teams (captain) at my school. Have about 80 volunteer hours racked up but idk how much that matters for RSI. I think I could write decent essays but gaah my lack of qualifications. /dead</p>

<p>@Vinefeather</p>

<p>I posted this before (p12), but I’ll post it again :slight_smile: . </p>

<p>The following is from the user LuoSciOly on a previous RSI thread.</p>

<p>"I would definitely apply to RSI if I were you. Aside from the application fee (which can be waived if needed), there are no downsides to applying. Even if you get rejected, the time you spent on essays will not be wasted, because you’ll be able to use portions of your essays for other applications, and it’s a great dry run for the college admission process.</p>

<p>Honestly, I doubt that a single low test score alone would preclude your admission to RSI. RSI is not filled with kids who are perfect at everything. Rather, it’s a collection of intellectually diverse, curious young scientists eager to immerse themselves in intense research. </p>

<p>For what it’s worth, many Rickoids applied to RSI fully expecting rejection. The only way to have a 0% chance is to not apply."</p>

<p>oh and btw, should I send in my ACT score from middle school? I got at 36 reading, 35 math, and 35 english… but I got a 30 on science. Does the science score really matter and can I omit it from the app?</p>

<p>Thanks for the help!</p>

<p>@academicnut
That’s impressive for middle school. I imagine you could omit the score as long as you include a second report. On the actual app, it asks for each specific date that you got your subscore, so you could just use a different test date for science. Though they’ll see the “lower” science score, they would also see that you’ve improved.
If you haven’t taken the ACT since then, I wouldn’t worry about it. A 30 is still a really good score, and your essays should compensate for it. Plus, they really just wanted to make sure you have good math and reading scores.</p>

<p>@FierceTiger
thanks for the help! :)</p>

<p>There seems to be a bit of confusion (and a bit of misinformation) in some of the answers by applicants above, so I will seek to clarify things a bit here. I speak in no official capacity, but I will try my best as someone who has been through the process before, as an applicant and then as an RSI 2012 student.</p>

<p>@FierceTiger (post #202): Regarding your first question, as for any application, I would caution you against specifically defying the directions stated on the application. However, I promise you that the RSI selection committee isn’t a Draconian death panel that seeks pleasure in denying applicants based on minute details. My guess is that it won’t really matter one way or the other what you do, but why not just follow the directions to be safe? If it means anything, one of my paragraphs was a mammoth – 378 words. Regarding your second question, I think it would be fine to omit math things in your essays as long as you think the rest of your essays and examples are sufficiently impactful, but I would caution you against assuming that the recommendations are going to “fill in the gaps.” In general, I would recommend discussing and including the things that will place you in the best light, and that you believe best demonstrate your interest and aptitude in scientific inquiry. Regarding your third question, I don’t know because the list of accomplishments was not a part of the application when I applied for RSI 2012, but the consensus on this thread seems to be that it is separate. Email Ms. Maite Ballestero if you would like a more authoritative answer.</p>

<p>@SJSF01 (post #204): The topic that you mention seems appropriate to discuss for question 7. However, I would encourage you to think about the spirit of the question – have you adequately demonstrated that you are proficient in “computer programming, modeling, and data analysis”? If not, you may want to consider adding other examples to your response. Use your best judgment.</p>

<p>@Justong (post #205): Don’t worry – I would not be concerned about the impact on your application of your specific field of interest, unless it is absolutely bizarre. First of all, students who are selected for RSI do not always get a project that is exactly what they wrote about in their application, but rather something closely related. CEE does a great job of matching students to mentors based on the students’ application essays and indicated research fields. For example, I wrote about a very specific subfield of bioengineering in my first essay, but I was matched with a mentor and project in a different subfield of bioengineering, and it was a great match. This type of thing is common. Second of all, the great thing about Boston as a location for RSI is that there are so many universities and institutions where mentorships can be located – RSI students have had mentorships at MIT, Harvard, Harvard Medical School, Boston College, Boston University, Tufts, Tufts Dental School, Northeastern University, companies in the Boston area, and a plethora of teaching hospitals including Massachusetts General, Beth Israel Deaconess, and Brigham & Women’s. So there are plenty of options for finding you a mentorship elsewhere if MIT does not have a good fit.</p>

<p>@Daedalus3140 (post #206): The question is very broad, and those sound like perfectly appropriate things to mention.</p>

<p>@academicnut (post #207): I think the items you mention sound perfectly fine – distinct enough to be separate subfields. I disagree with what SJSF01 wrote in post #209. When the application still had a dropdown menu for fields (back when I applied), the biology-related fields listed were Biochemistry, Biophysics, Bioengineering, Biomedicine, Integrative Biology, and Molecular & Cell Biology. I chose two of those fields and then a subfield within each field. (Note: I don’t think it necessarily would be wrong to include “Biology” as a field instead, if that’s what anyone reading this has chosen to do; I’m just saying that what @academicnut suggested in post #207 – namely, treating Biomedicine and Cell Biology as two separate fields – sounds perfectly fine to me as well.)</p>

<p>@science2015 (post #208): I always recommend that students include and discuss whichever things they believe will place them in the best light and will best demonstrate their interest and aptitude in scientific inquiry. Whether this means discussing all of your activities, or only a subset of your activities, is up to you to decide. More informally, I would recommend that you include and discuss the things that you are most proud of!</p>

<p>@SJSF01 (post #209): I disagree that a “field” must be as broad as “Biology” or “Chemistry.” I believe that slightly more narrow “fields” would be perfectly appropriate as well, if a student wishes to use them. Please see my response to @academicnut above.</p>

<p>@Vinefeather (post #212): Almost every RSI student, when they applied, thought that they had essentially no chance of being selected. The qualifications you mention do not sound inherently bad – when I applied to RSI, I had taken 3 AP classes, only one of which was a science, and I had much less programming experience than it sounds like you have. Make the most of the experiences and achievements you do have, and demonstrate your passion for the sciences through kicka** essays and letters of recommendation. Please see my post from a previous thread that SJSF01 quotes in post #213. :)</p>

<p>@academicnut (post #214): I recommend that students send whichever scores they believe will place them in the best light. Will the ACT scores you mention improve the overall appearance of your application, in light of whichever other scores you are including? If yes, then send them. If not, then do not send them.</p>

<p>I wish everyone the best of luck and skill as the application deadline approaches. Take a deep breath! You can do it. :)</p>

<p>@LuoSciOly</p>

<p>Thanks for the clarification.</p>

<p>@LuoSciOly</p>

<p>Do you think it would be okay to use the following? </p>

<p>Bioengineering -Tissue engineering
Biomedicine - Immunology</p>

<p>Hey everyone! I have a quick question:
For the recommendations, the application said to have 2 math/science teachers fill in the recommendation form. It also says that CEE will accept a maximum of 3 recommendations, so is the third optional one written by your research advisor/professor? Thanks! :)</p>