Responsible Use of Alcohol

<p>The following policy was sent out today at the behest of Captain Helen F. Dunn, USN, Deputy Superintendent & Chief of Staff. This new policy should help alleviate some of the problems that we have seen this past year such as the Lamar Owens case.</p>

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The Naval Academy has recently established clear standards for the responsible use of alcohol in order to best develop midshipmen into responsible officers and leaders for the Navy and Marine Corps. As you know, alcohol abuse is a severe detriment to combat readiness, performance and military discipline. We want our alumni to understand our ongoing efforts to ensure all midshipmen know that they cannot effectively lead if they abuse alcohol. </p>

<p>Today it's common to come across the all too often repeated story of young college-aged students who have engaged in "binge drinking" and subsequently hurt themselves or someone else, or were arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct, and as a result, embarrass themselves and their families. Midshipmen are not immune to the fate that befalls those that choose to drink alcohol in a destructive manner. We confront many of the same barriers to the responsible use of alcohol by midshipmen that most colleges and universities face today. </p>

<p>The first barrier is misplaced loyalty to their "drinking buddies" over their loyalty to the Naval Academy, their futures or their careers. Second is a fear of confronting unacceptable behavior. Some midshipmen, like many other students their age, want to be perceived as being cool. Confronting their peers on their abuse of alcohol is - for some - inconsistent with this desired image. Sometimes this results in a lack of "positive" peer pressure which could get an off-course midshipman back on track. Third is the misconception that "all" college students drink excessively. Many midshipmen don't want to miss out on many of the experiences believed to be a right of passage for college-aged students. As a result, some midshipmen ignore Naval Academy rules and drink to excess in order to have that true "college" experience. Last is the "I am invulnerable" youth culture where the belief is that bad things only happen to other people.it won't happen to me. </p>

<p>Our policy seeks to discourage alcohol abuse, and encourages both personal accountability and responsibility for the welfare of their peers. Policy highlights follow:</p>

<p>Responsible Use: For those who choose to drink, responsible use means drinking in moderation to ensure one's Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) never exceeds .08. We've adopted the memory aid of "0-0-1-3" as a guideline. "0-0-1-3" stands for "0" alcoholic drinks for those under 21, "0" drinks, if driving, a maximum of "1" standard alcoholic drink per hour, and a maximum of "3" standard alcoholic drinks per occasion. </p>

<p>Underage Drinking: Consumption of alcoholic beverages by any midshipman under the age of 21 is a violation of federal and state laws. Offenders face conduct action.</p>

<p>Risky Consumption of Alcohol. Drinking that results in a BAC above .08 and extending to .15. Offenders will be flagged for intervention from their Chain of Command, counseling and education. Subsequent offenses face conduct action.</p>

<p>Abusive Consumption of Alcohol. Drinking that results in a BAC above .15 and extending to .20 is considered abusive consumption of alcohol. Offenders face conduct action. </p>

<p>Intolerable Alcohol Consumption. Excessive drinking resulting in a BAC over .20. Offenders face major conduct action and possible separation from the Naval Academy. </p>

<p>The difference in this policy is that midshipmen will be held accountable for the quantity they drink - not solely for bad conduct under the influence. Our intention is not to play cops and robbers here. We want our midshipmen to discipline their own alcohol use. However, we'll enforce this policy through personal and chain of command accountability, and extensive breathalyzer testing. </p>

<p>Our policy increases chain of command involvement with intervention and possible treatment options to ensure timely and effective treatment is given to those midshipmen that need it. The Naval Academy recently hired an additional SARP (Substance Abuse Rehabilitation Program) counselor and instituted Level 1 alcohol abuse treatment on the Yard in an effort to provide needed treatment with as minimal impact as possible on midshipmen studies and training.</p>

<p>The Naval Academy is working hard to combat alcohol abuse. We understand the gravity and pervasiveness of the challenge at our nation's colleges and in our society as a whole. Preparing midshipmen morally, mentally and physically to be combat leaders of character for our Navy and Marine Corps requires holding them to a high standard. As you might expect, the vast majority of our midshipmen meet or exceed our exacting standards on a daily basis, and we will continue to educate, discipline and remediate those who fall short. </p>

<p>Eliminating "binge drinking" and alcohol abuse within the Brigade is challenging, and we have elicited the support of our entire faculty and staff in realizing this important goal. For our many alumni who have frequent contact with midshipmen, we ask that you continue to provide a positive example regarding responsible alcohol use during athletic events, tailgaters, and other social activities attended by midshipmen. Your example, positive support and encouragement will greatly assist our efforts to create a climate of professionalism and accountability through the responsible use of alcohol.

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<p>HMMMM, and while I was talking to my mid he had to leave shortly to be breathalyzed at about 10:30 pm EST.</p>

<p>Thank you for that post; it was very informative. you can be sure I will be passing that one along.</p>

<p>I received the article from the USNA Alumni Association. I was surprised.</p>

<p>Breathalyzers, eh? Wow. :eek:</p>

<p>I suspect they've had enough of stupid people doing stupid things. Sad that they've ruined it for the rest, but that's life.</p>

<p>The academy is definitely getting tough on alcohol abuse because of a few bad apples. We used to call this "battalion punishment" in the Seabees.</p>

<p>With the new policies, maybe the academy will be able to rank higher on Princeton's Stone Cold Sober Schools list. Watch out Brigham Young University.</p>

<p>Details as reported on the frontpage of the BS:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-te.md.ar.alcohol15sep15,0,7035655.story?coll=bal-home-headlines%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/annearundel/bal-te.md.ar.alcohol15sep15,0,7035655.story?coll=bal-home-headlines&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I am not in favor of the new policy. I believe that education is the way to change behaviors. Threats never work in the long term. Part of the problem is that the tightly controlled environment at USNA actually contributes to the problem instead of being part of the solution. Many Mids go a bit too far when on liberty by overindulging to release stress. There are relatively few hours of freedom compared to most college environments and as a result, partying and drinking are jammed into a short period of time. I have seen it happen time and time again that forbidding certain behaviors only makes individuals want it more and find creative ways around it. There has to be a better way.</p>

<p>This new policy is similar to the approach that the Navy took to address drug abuse in the fleet. The Navy instituted urinalysis drug testing during the 1982-83 time frame to combat that problem. Those screenings involve both random testing and unit sweeps. Drug abuse had been a chronic problem since the Viet Nam era. Unfortunately, sometimes the Navy turns a blind eye to problems or tends to be a little slow on the uptake . We’ve gone from peeing in bottles to breathalyzers. Personally, I would rather take a breathalyzer test than pee in a bottle.</p>

<p>Would probably be just as effective if they were to say point-blank that if you get a DUI, DWI, or get into a problem in town due to your alcohol consumption, that you WILL be GONE from USNA before you can even sober up. Seems to me that treating them like adults and holding them accountable for their behavior is better than controlling the behavior in the first place.</p>

<p>But hey, I'm not the Supe.</p>

<p>GA: The difference is that alcohol is legal, whereas drugs aren't.</p>

<p>Still annoys me that we are the only dry Navy in the free world. Never saw a guy drunk on duty those three months I was with the Argentines.</p>

<p>Oh, well, I'm not the CNO, either. ;)</p>

<p>Z,</p>

<p>Alcohol is illegal for most of the mids.</p>

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Would probably be just as effective if they were to say point-blank that if you get a DUI, DWI, or get into a problem in town due to your alcohol consumption, that you WILL be GONE from USNA before you can even sober up.

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<p>That's the way it was when I was a mid. The threat of being sent to the fleet as an E-3 was powerful.</p>

<p>I fully support VADM Rempt in the new "0013" alcohol policy. The point that he is trying to get across is that binge drinking has no place for future naval officers. I totally agree with the supe, there is nothing wrong having a few drinks, socially (and he has stated that). </p>

<p>Furthermore, the BAC is all that matters...if one can drink 8 beers, socially and have a BAC of .07...thats ok. The 0013 is a guidance not policy, other than the 00 (0 drinks underage, 0 DUI/DWI). </p>

<p>Military officers are held to a higher standard...one can sit here and start explaining why that shouldn't be...but this is the military...bottom line, officers are expected to act in such a behavior that is professional. Binge drinking and drinking to the point of intoxication is HIGHLY UNPROFESSIONAL. </p>

<p>USNAMom, unfortunately education does not always work. I believe the only way to deal with this problem (and I am highly against conduct action, in general) is to severely punish those offenders (to include seperation) who exceed the limits set forth. When people start getting kicked out, it might be a good wake-up call. Furthermore, the excuse that there is not much liberty is garbage. What's going to happen on deployment? Go into port and get silly drunk because an officer has been underway for a month or two? Nope! The MIDS exceeding the appropriate alcohol limit have the intention before leaving the Academy to get totally drunk....it doesn't happen by accident!</p>

<p>Simply put, the Supe's policy is a good policy and it isn't hard to follow. Anyone can go out and party, but drinking alcohol (excessively) is one's decision and if one is going to decide to break it, then they know what the consequences are. </p>

<p>This is my spin on this issue.</p>

<p>Does this new policy simply encourage Mids not to go back to the Yard after a night of drinking, assuming they have an appropriate pass? Will there be breathalizers in Philadelphia for the Army-Navy game? Roaming the streets in Annapolis? Education is the answer. This policy will only shift alcohol abuse to weekends away from the Yard and vacations unless meaningful alcohol education is developed and implemented. </p>

<p>I also agree with Z that alcohol is legal for many of the Mids.</p>

<p>Education on alcohol (for MIDN) = in one ear and out the other. </p>

<p>Simple as that.</p>

<p>I dare anyone to come here and start educating MIDN on drinking alcohol...they will laugh you in the face and ask you are you kidding.</p>

<p>Many people are oblivious to think that MIDN are not sly or have a mind of their own. If you think MIDN listen to everything they are told, think twice.</p>

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What's going to happen on deployment? Go into port and get silly drunk because an officer has been underway for a month or two? Nope!

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<p>I wouldn't bet the family farm on that, if I were you.</p>

<p>Not saying it's right, mind you, just reality.</p>

<p>I have been blind drunk ONCE in my life. My Chief (yes, my CHIEF) roundly chewed me a new one about how HE wasn't going to be the only blankety-blank-bleeping mother-blanker on this bleeping ship whose blanking division officer had never been bleeping drunk. So, that evening in Panama, he took me out to the Officer's/CPO club and calibrated my attitude with large quantities of Tequila and beer.</p>

<p>All I remember is making a fool of myself and giving the XO a wedgie on a $5 bet from the Suppo (the whole wardroom was there), the same Suppo who was my roommate and who held the garbage can for me later. </p>

<p>The Shore Patrol (made up mostly of my guys, as luck would have it) helped me back to the ship. Not a single negative comment was ever made (on the contrary), but my Chief took all sorts of grief because he got hung over whereas I didn't (don't ask me how I pulled THAT one off).</p>

<p>No one hurt. No bad press. No one cared.</p>

<p>Then there were the idiots who got smashed and decided to kick over some motorcycles against some cars (one of them a brand-new Mercedes) while out in town in Trieste, Italy. That did NOT go over well AT ALL.</p>

<p>BTW, I refuse to get drunk ever again. I hated not being in control of myself. I don't know what people find so much fun about it.</p>

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I dare anyone to come here and start educating MIDN on drinking alcohol...they will laugh you in the face and ask you are you kidding.

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I'd say the Sup did just that. Don't hear anyone laughing.</p>

<p>Of course, the REAL teeth to this "education" is what will happen to the idiot who goes too far with the booze. If the Sup comes down with both feet, the lesson will be learned QUICK. If he DOESN'T, then the lesson is DOA.</p>

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Many people are oblivious to think that MIDN are not sly or have a mind of their own.

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Whoa, Nelly! Ain't THAT the truth! :eek:</p>

<p>The Academy has had many bad alcohol incidents in the last 1.5 years:</p>

<p>-One MIDN who fell out of a room, 5 stories to their death and alcohol was said to be involved.</p>

<p>-One MIDN who fell out of a rack (due to alcohol) and wasn't discovered until the next morning. The MIDN was in a coma for 1-2 weeks.</p>

<p>-Two MIDN involved in inappropriate conduct resulting from being under the influence.</p>

<p>-One MIDN on spring break lost their military ID because they were cow tipping (of course they were drunk) in a foregin country. The President, SecNav, CNO, Supe, Dant were briefed on this because they weren't sure if the MIDN got kidnapped.</p>

<p>-Many major conduct offenses</p>

<p>Too many MIDN have gotten theirselves into trouble, resulting from alcohol and MIDN who drink excessively think they will never get in a situation in which they may hurt themselves or others. Remember there is not always a buddy around.</p>

<p>And, by the way, the Academy has been doing alcohol training for a while...it did not just start.</p>

<p>I think the new policy is clear and correct. The policy is not discouraging coming back to BH, it is discouraging excessive drinking. It is one's decision to drink. Unless I am totally off course, who would want their kids drinking excessively? VADM Rempt and CAPT Grooms are responsible for the MIDN welfare. They are ensuring this in their policy. </p>

<p>The Academy is about habbits and forming the right ones to become officers. The Academy IS NOT the fleet. The Academy is a training command, therefore, standards like the PRT and alcohol policy are acceptable. If one chooses to get smashed drunk once they graduate, that is their decision and if something bad happens, well the CoC will deal with it, and I am sure it won't be lightly.</p>

<p>Anyone heard of the constitutional paradigm? Very applicable.</p>

<p>I don't think anyone here is disagreeing with you. We're just sad it has to come to this for the point to be driven home.</p>

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One MIDN on spring break lost their military ID because they were cow tipping (of course they were drunk) in a foregin country. The President, SecNav, CNO, Supe, Dant were briefed on this because they weren't sure if the MIDN got kidnapped.

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You have GOT to be kidding! :eek:</p>

<p>And I only say this of MIDN. </p>

<p>I think in the fleet, counseling/education might work (at least a better shot than USNA). This would be based on how well you get along with your subordinates and how much they trust you. I just don't see it with MIDN. That is why I am supportive of VADM Rempt's policy. I see no other way for MIDN.</p>

<p>I think enlisted sailors might be willing to listen better than MIDN. There is also more "help" in the fleet for alcohol problems (from what I am told). </p>

<p>I would be more than happy (if I had a car) to pick up anyone who was drunk and couldn't control themselves. Safety is a big issue, but at the same time, that person needs to learn (probably with a warning) that the behavoir is unacceptable. </p>

<p>The drinking policy for MIDN I think is applicable because of our leadership role. How could one tell a sailor (regardless of rank) that they have an alcohol problem and should stop, if the USNA grad does the same thing (assuming this is more than 1 drinking incident, say 5-10)? Not leading by example. </p>

<p>Zaph, would you have had a problem telling someone not to get drunk? I would probably assume not because it was only once, but had you done it many times and one of your sailors got in trouble and they knew you drunk your behind off, would it have been odd?</p>

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Zaph, would you have had a problem telling someone not to get drunk? I would probably assume not because it was only once, but had you done it many times and one of your sailors got in trouble and they knew you drunk your behind off, would it have been odd?

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<p>The only issue I have with this is the equation of being drunk with getting in trouble. I think people should be disciplined for getting into trouble, not for getting drunk.</p>

<p>Therefore, if I had a sailor who went three sheets to the wind every night in town, but was never late for quarters, always did a good job, never got into trouble with the law, etc., then I wouldn't care one way or the other.</p>

<p>Now, it is no secret that drinking lowers one's inhibitions and leaves you open for any number of stupidities. To me, the act of getting so drunk that you THEN get into trouble is inexcusable (at least using the excuse that you were drunk is).</p>

<p>So while I agree with ADM Rempt's attempt to slam the door on the trouble caused by drunk Mids (especially when they are drinking underage, which is illegal no matter how stupid that law is), I am cautious to endorse his policy in it's entirety. </p>

<p>Were I him, I'd simply stand up before the Brigade and tell them in no uncertain terms that any DUI, DWI, or drinking underage is an automatic 6000 fry, and you won't be earning a Black N for it. Get into trouble or bring shame on the Service due to your drinking and you're facing a 5000. Do it again and you're gone. Oh and BTW, "gone" means "to the Fleet", not "back home". </p>

<p>In other words, show that certain behaviors will have severe consequences, and then stick to those standards, rather than trying to baby the Mids (which you rightly point out are pretty damned stubborn) with some kind of new-fangled "3-2-1" policy with a catchy name. Treat them like adults, because that's what they are supposed to be.</p>

<p>That's my take on the whole thing. Having been a Midshipman and an Officer, I think my approach would most likely be better received AND followed more closely, not to mention involve a lot less bureaucracy and resources.</p>

<p>But that's just me. :)</p>

<p>Zaph---agree with you 100%! Deal swift and severely with the consequences of drinking too much and NOT with the act of drinking itself.</p>

<p>As published in the Washington Compost:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/22/AR2006092201433.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/22/AR2006092201433.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>