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<p>You are such an *****le</p>
<p>Well answer me this: if not for slavery would there be any blacks in America? Several blacks in this country are pretty damn financially well off, and if it wouldn't have been for slavery, they would not be here.</p>
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Well answer me this: if not for slavery would there be any blacks in America? Several blacks in this country are pretty damn financially well off, and if it wouldn't have been for slavery, they would not be here.
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<p>I guess Jews also should be thankful for the Holocaust because without it, they'd never have gotten the home country they've been looking for for 2000 years.</p>
<p>And you're like 30 years old. Why are you hanging around a college forum holding the opinions of an 11-year old?</p>
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And you're like 30 years old. Why are you hanging around a college forum holding the opinions of an 11-year old?
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I've touched on this before, but I lead a boring life. On the other point, I never said slavery was good (some slaves had it ok) but to blame everything on the white man and his evil slave holding ways is foolhardy. Some silver lining can be found from slavery if you don't just say: "Oh its bad, and blame whitey, no other opinions heard or will be discussed." Which is the opinion of many people on this message board.</p>
<p>BS war on drugs? Here is a clue Einstein: DON'T SELL OR DO DRUGS! Then you won't go to jail.</p>
<p>3x more likely to get pulled over? Well did you ever think that maybe black men might just happened to be 3x more likely to commit a crime. If old ladies stole 90% of goods from department stores, you don't think that maybe, just maybe, then would get followed around department stores a little bit more than everyone else. Not profiling, just common sense.</p>
<p>1/3 below the poverty level? If you are fat, have cable TV and a flush toilet, with heat in your house, you are not poor; despite what the government says the poverty line is. Look at the poor in Mexico and other 3rd world countries, they would cut off an arm to be considered "poor" in America.</p>
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<p>Joev you have no idea what your talking about and I suggest you take some sociology courses it will enlighten you. You do realize that 70% of the people who do drugs in this country or sell it are white? Yet look at the disproportionate numbers of blacks in prison and the stiffer penalties on drugs that black people are more likely to use. This information is easy to access my friend. The fact is no one gave a damn about drugs amongst the poor, disenfranchised of the inner-city until it hit the suburbs.</p>
<p>How many people committ crimes while driving. Unless it's a drive by or running someone over (which white teens are more prone to do.....go check those stats) then your options are pretty limited. I can't believe your trying to make excuses for everything. Crimes are often more likely to be committed by those who are poor and come from low income areas, but I have been pulled over many times for no damn reason.......and I could tell the cop was mad he had nothing on me.....so get out of here.......this stuff happens all the time. White are twice as lucky to be caught with narcotics in a vehicle yet are 1/2 as likely to pulled over.........if that's not bias what is?</p>
<p>So your trying to tell all those people below the poverty to suck it up? Are ****in kiddin me? So a minority should be happy if they are poor because they are poor in America and not Honduras? I know it's better get out of here. This is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Unwritten, do your research on African-American before talking stupid about how a certain race can learn this or that from tohers. First off AAs really didn't gain rights until the late 60s/early 70s so in less than 40 years we have come this far take that into account. Jews were disliked in America, but in some places still had access to higher education and could assimilate and change their names like Italians did. Black people can't change their skin color so fall back on that.</p>
<p>Everyone has been pulled over for "no reason." There is always a reason. Even though I haven't drank for a year and a half, I still go out to bars. After I leave the parking lot, I have been pulled over numerous times, because they would run my plates and see DUIs on my record from several years ago. Is this profiling? Probably, but the police are doing their job. If you get pulled over and are nothing but polite to the cops no matter what the reason you were pulled over, and nothing happens, what is the problem. Now if the police pull you out of the car and start beating you with billy clubs after you were polite to them, then you have a reason to complain. But being pulled over for being at the wrong place is just a fact of life.</p>
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Futhermore, every black person in this country should thank the Southern states for slavery so they can be here in America, pretty well off, instead of living in some African slum dying of starvation because some warlord refuses to give you food.
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<p>And with this, you invalidated everything you said previously. Don't get it twisted. There are TWO extremes. Solely blaming whites and justifying completely what whites did. You, most likely, have not been to Africa, whereas I have been numerous times. It is far from all bad. You are profoundly ignorant.</p>
<p>Joev your anecdotal evidence iis pointless here the stats show what the rates are and objectively looking at them......there's only one conclusion you can come to. Oh and to the person who said that Asians are smarter than all other races or something along those lines I really wants the experiment to back that up because everyone that has tried to bring that up has been destroyed or discredited. The fact is that the Asian-Americans over here for the most part come from families who in Asian had strong values about education and so they push them here. Often the Asian-Americans here are some of the best from their country. The Asian-American experience and black American experience are completely different. Asian-Americans never faced institutionalized racism that held them back for centuries, they never had the black family structure destroyed after crack hit the inner cities(that's pretty much when the whole black unity thing from Martin and Malcolm started to die out....along witht he Black Panthers). Yes, Chinese-Americans had to work on the railroads, but their children were still not the bottom of society that AAs were. For example African-American children who have parents who actually come from Africa do better than American Blacks and favorably perform in comparison to their white and Asian counterparts. Unless they come from a horrible family to begin with or very poor area. I bet if you took a chinese child who spent the early parts of their life as a farmer they wouldn't be looking like a genius. Furthermore Southeast Asians perform just as bad as other minorities groups academically and SAT-wise. So let's dispel that myth right now.</p>
<p>Never did I say Africa itself was bad, you are twisting my words. I implied that it was better for blacks in the USA than for the majority of blacks in Africa. </p>
<p>I wanted to visit Africa BTW when I was in southern Spain, but good ole Uncle Sam wouldn't let troops visit Northern Africa countries because of some nonspecific terrorist threat.</p>
<p>Futhermore, every black person in this country should thank the Southern states for slavery so they can be here in America, pretty well off, instead of living in some African slum dying of starvation because some warlord refuses to give you food.</p>
<p>And with this, you invalidated everything you said previously. Don't get it twisted. There are TWO extremes. Solely blaming whites and justifying completely what whites did. You, most likely, have not been to Africa, whereas I have been numerous times. It is far from all bad. You are profoundly ignorant.</p>
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<p>Seriously and furthermore the Black kings sold their own people because for one slavery in Africa was different from American slavery in which the people could work out of it and were treated with respect(unless the slaveowner was an Arab), they could even marry. Slavery was not at all permanent. Also leaders who did try to stop it were basically held at gun point because then the Europeans would takeover their nations with advanced technology and enslave everyone. So they allowed to the poorest and lower class people to become slaves......even though it's not what they believed in for the most part. I'm not trying to justify their actions, but explain the rationale.</p>
<p>P.S. How the heck do you quote on this board?</p>
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Never did I say Africa itself was bad, you are twisting my words. I implied that it was better for blacks in the USA than for the majority of blacks in Africa. </p>
<p>I wanted to visit Africa BTW when I was in southern Spain, but good ole Uncle Sam wouldn't let troops visit Northern Africa countries because of some nonspecific terrorist threat.
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<p>I know what you said and what you meant by it. IT'S NOT YOUR CALL TO MAKE. Whites did not go into the slaveholding business with the intention of benefiting anyone other than themselves. They held human beings like cattle. They messed up minds. They became savage in the process. Whatever "benefit" we are seeing now did not occur without blacks standing up for their humanity. Your argument is insane, not to mention hilariously outmoded. Maybe unnecessary too...</p>
<p>Btw, most African Americans trace their roots back to Western Africa not Northern Africa, so whatever jab you were making failed miserably.</p>
<p>Just stop.</p>
<p>Morgan Freeman was right - Black history is American history and things like Black History Month are ridiculous. He said "I'm going to stop calling you a white man, and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. Racism isn't going to go away until we stop talking about race."</p>
<p>Racism isn't going to go away until people like joev go away. Forget Freeman. Race seems to exist. Racism definitely still exists. You don't solve problems by sweeping them under the rug and ignoring them. How childish. There are differences between us. Nothing wrong with recognizing and accepting this. The point is, get beyond it. Judge people based on their character, something that a lot of people still have trouble doing.</p>
<p>Joev, I've lost any respect I had for you. By the way, I can't see black Americans just "laughing" the N-word off, It's alittle more complex than that.</p>
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I just call a spade a spade. I am not going to listen to people constantly blame the white man for everything, and constantly claim that minorities are superior to whites or that if whites didn't hold minorities down that they would be superior. Peoples of all races can be superior if they put their minds to it. I am just sick of people saying whites are inferior is all.</p>
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Btw, most African Americans trace their roots back to Western Africa not Northern Africa, so whatever jab you were making failed miserably.
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I was not making a jab, I was stating that I was not allowed to travel into northern Africa. I find African cultures fascinating, personally I think militant Islam destroyed alot of Africa.</p>
<p>I sort of made a point in all this. People have been so brainwashed by the <whoever> that whenever someone puts out an opposing viewpoint besides that whitey is to blame for all problems in America, they get called a bigot and a racist in so many words. Call me whatever you want, they are just words. As soon as the rest of America realizes that words cannot hurt you, then they will be better off.</whoever></p>
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"N-word" Laugh it off and quit being so damn offended.</p>
<p>"Futhermore, every black person in this country should thank the Southern states for slavery"
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<p>^ your ignorance is astounding. and to the person below me, maybe you should stop fixating on some insignificant detail and look at the big picture, ok?</p>
<p>Good job citing facts and pointing out just why that is, psychopath.</p>
<p>I totally agree with the person who said that "these people did not have the same opportunities". It is totally true. Have any of you ever lived in a res, village or extremely poor neighborhood? Have you ever even visited one? </p>
<p>Take a look at the stats of people living in poverty.</p>
<p>Native Americans - 24.5%
African Americans - 22.7%
Hispanics - 21.4%
Asians and Pacific Islanders - 10.2%
Whites - 7.8%</p>
<p>This is due to many factors. Look at the schools that are located in the res, villages, and ghettos. Take a small Alaskan native village for example. These kids go to a school with 1-3 teachers teaching them from k-12. Do you really expect these kids to pull themselves out without a little help? Until we become equal to all... how can you say that college admission has to be the same for all?</p>
<p>edit: just wanted to add to the person who claimed american poverty is not bad... the poverty level is something like 16,000 for a family of 3. I do not even know why you would comment on that if you have never lived something like that.</p>
<p>To pofreshnyc and nbachris2788, </p>
<p>why don't you two just say white power and get it over with rather than ******** me with your "logic"? </p>
<p>and nbachris2788, you are saying that i think aa is unfair just because I do not have high test scores, legacy, or poor background? </p>
<p>If it was just 3 years ago, I would qualify in the poverty zone and I have a 2390. Go figure aryan.</p>