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<p>allcapella, maybe you didn’t get into Harvard because of your “character and caliber”.</p>
<p>Steve Jobs went to a state school and look at him now lol, he owns Apple and is a multi-billionaire. Sarah Palin, though I’m not a fan of her, is more successful than anyone on this forum and most of the world, and she went to a community college. It’s what you make of your education that counts in the end.</p>
<p>Why Harvard? Anyone picked MIT over Harvard?</p>
<p>This thread should be locked. Seriously. It just ****es me off.</p>
<p>///This is sad. I can only imagine that every African American you’ll meet at college or the workplace will be presumed by you that they’re only there because they’re black. Will you automatically think the same of the hockey player or woman’s track star?///</p>
<p>lol. no. the track star or hockey player gets in on merit, not skin color.
can you imagine the track coach benching the faster (by just a little bit) black runner in favor of the white guy in the 100 yd dash because of his skin color simply because the other 9 people running are black. lol. same thing.
AA hurts blacks more than any other race because the truly qualified black student will not be given the respect they deserve.</p>
<p>My friend had 1000 service hours. Published 2 books. Raised over 50,000$ for Relay for Life and saved a person from a burning house and got a medal from the mayor</p>
<p>His gpa was 4.0 unweighted
His sat was 2300
Everything else was incredible</p>
<p>and guess what…</p>
<p>HE WAS AFRICAN AMERICAN</p>
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<p>Laughwithme: the point I was making about contrasting a white hockey player or track star versus any black student would be that on first glance, the white athlete in class or the workplace won’t be assumed to have gotten in because of some other attribute (in this case, high caliber athletic ability) whereas the brown skinned person, upon entering a room, will be assumed to be less worthy *automatically *by anyone with the OP’s attitude.</p>
<p>great example madogmgd. where is he going to college?</p>
<p>“Steve Jobs went to a state school and look at him now lol, he owns Apple and is a multi-billionaire.”</p>
<p>Steve Jobs did not go to any state college. He went to (and dropped out of) Reed College - a selective private school.</p>
<p>To the OP: Why do you focus on black people specifically? URMs, by virtue of being under-represented, account for a very small part of the applicant pool, and it is extremely unlikely that your rejection was the direct result of an underqualified black person’s acceptance. In fact, chances are that you were rejected for another unhooked white male whose application was simply more impressive than yours.</p>
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<p>Is blatantly untrue. Like, it’s so untrue I don’t even know where to begin.</p>
<p>And you seem to be trying to acknowledge the fact that your SAT score isn’t everything, but failing; you keep going back to the fact that it’s a disgrace that someone “with a 2200” could have been accepted ahead of you.</p>
<p>The truth is that you don’t have to be African-American or poor or physically handicapped to be accepted to Harvard. You also don’t need a 2390 on the SAT. You need to be interesting and remarkable in some way.</p>
<p>You don’t sound particularly interesting to me; maybe you are, but your post doesn’t show it. It actually makes you sound kind of racist, ignorant and entitled, and like a person I wouldn’t want to have a long conversation with.</p>
<p>(Oh, and read any of ksarmand’s posts and tell me she’s “NOT AS QUALIFIED” as you to attend Harvard. Please try.)</p>
<p>And yes, Steve Jobs is ours. Score.</p>
<p>Thanks for the input, everyone. I don’t think you can assess how interesting someone is through a public forum online. My intentions were not convey how interesting I am but to list objective information and essentially question what it takes to get accepted at Harvard. </p>
<p>I’m certainly not a racist, and I apologize if my post came across as arrogant. </p>
<p>I realize there are African American with stats as high, perhaps even higher than mine, but I also know that there are many with lower stats. </p>
<p>Like someone mentioned though, I didn’t have the strongest ECs. This could have contributed to my denial. </p>
<p>I am also aware it’s not simply that African Americans are the reason for my denial. I never said that. </p>
<p>Lastly, I am aware that you can be a white middle class guy from Texas and get into Harvard. I was just exaggerating. I also said you have to have cured cancer to get into Harvard. Obviously, this is not true, I was just being sarcastic.</p>
<p>I think MIT/Yale was probably a better fit for me anyway.</p>
<p>Most likely you’re Yale material. Honestly they are worlds apart in many respects. The prestige factor is largely the same. Would you look at Obama or Bush differently if they have Harvard/Yale degrees instead of Yale/Harvard degrees?</p>
<p>Plus, MIT? Really? It is Harvard’s baby brother, created BY Harvard for engineering during the industrial revolution. Their class rings are THE SAME. You can enroll in THE SAME classes at Harvard. MIT is probably more similar to Yale in terms of social campus air.</p>
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<p>And I’m sure there are many African-Americans with higher stats than you too. But hopefully you’ll make the best out of the school you choose.</p>
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<p>As someone who would trade the Harvard waitlist for just another shot at Columbia in a heartbeat, I think you’ve got this all wrong. I got a 2160, got waitlisted, and guess what?! I’m white! So complain about the randomness of admissions all you want (I can join you on that one, it’s been a hard year), but don’t just abritrarily blame it on minorities. A close friend of mine is black and got into Harvard. He’s also brilliant, incredibly charismatic, and most importantly, a great person. I have no idea what his SAT score was, but guess what? It doesn’t matter! In 10 years, the fact that you got almost a perfect score on the SAT will be worth nothing more than bragging rights. The fact that you went to Columbia, or Yale, or wherever, and more importantly, what you DID with your time there - that is what matters.</p>
<p>White girl from NC here. Many of those I met while visiting Harvard didn’t seem to be hooked either, just smart, accomplished kids (who probably had more going for them than they like to admit).</p>
<p>“I realize there are African American with stats as high, perhaps even higher than mine, but I also know that there are many with lower stats.”</p>
<p>Just as there were many Caucasian admits with lower stats- including myself. Why not pick on me or any of the tens of other Caucasian admits in the results thread with lower numerical stats? I guess I’m just not so easy a target to point at because I look the same as you. </p>
<p>As everyone else said, just be thankful for the admits you’ve gotten. I know people with similar/better stats who did not fare as well as you have.</p>
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<p>Uh, no. MIT was always independent. When Harvard started to lag behind, they tried unsuccessfully to buy MIT.</p>
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<p>Not that it matters, but 99% of class rings look the same. MIT’s class ring, the Brass rat, is probably the only one that looks different.</p>
<p>Oh, stop with the whole racial thing. I used to be as anti-affirmative action as anyone else here, but I got into HYPS with slightly above-average scores, slightly above-average EC, and an Asian American background, so I don’t think race is as a big as a factor as CC makes it out to be.</p>