<p>I applied early and the wait for that itself is killing me, but i was wondering when you would find out about rodman/echols programs (rodman for me since i went E-school); what are the typical stats needed for someone in the rodman program, i'm out of state, my father and brother went to uva, 2100 sats, 3.8 unweighted, 3 APs so far, taking 3 this year, heavy courseload, 4 year varsity football, coach of youth bball team, volunteer at library, cofounder and vp of school's republican club, 4 year member of Model UN, worked with truck mechanic for 2 summers, other EC's, fairly well known public school in nj
thx for your help/time</p>
<p>There are never any "requirement" stats for echols/rodmans but if you go on their site it usually tells you a hint of what they are looking for.</p>
<p>I believe on the Echols site it says you find out when the regular decision kids find out.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don't care about echols right now...I just wanna get in :)</p>
<p>Well first if you are a legacy you are basically considered instate. That should help you alot. </p>
<p>I agree with Yoshi though...just lemme in the school and I'll be thrilled.</p>
<p>You don't have a good shot at the Rodman Scholars program.</p>
<p>Some statistics relevant to echols/rodman: </p>
<p>Note, only 33 Rodman scholars in 2009 class and about same number in 2010 class -- reduced number from the size in 2008 class.</p>
<p>Seems like when it comes to Rodman/Echols, SAT scores gain more importance when deciding who receives it.</p>
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<p>Umm, yea? Everything gains a little more importance. The Echols and Rodman distinctions are only given to a small portion of the applicant pool.</p>
<p>I am a first year Echols scholar and I know that both Echols and Rodman kids found out about the middle of March last year, even if you applied ED.</p>
<p>AGS3388, why do you think you were chosen for Echols? I am curious to see what grabbed the admission office to name you a Echols scholar.</p>
<p>BGjeez
My son was selected last year for Echols. To be honest, it's really hard to say why one is selected for Echols after you factor in GPA and SAT scores. Two kids ranked ahead of him didn't get the offer, but a student ranked lower than him was selected too. I think my son's essays were very clever and the other kid selected was known to be a good writer. I've only read my son's essays, however I think his essays were unique and well thought out. My son's main ECs were outside of school, while the other kid selected had very nice ECs in school, as well as some terrific work experience. Their ECs were both very strong and showed leadership. The kids ranked ahead of them, but not selected, didn't have as strong of ECs, and, of course, I didn't see their essays, so I can't compare. </p>
<p>Also, some kids worried that applying ED would hurt their chances for Echols. This is coincidental, but my son and the other kid selected were ED and the two ranked ahead were RD.</p>
<p>Regardless, don't be too concerned about Echols. It really helps with course selection and some other benefits, but UVA is a terrific school with or without Echols. All of his friends (and I mean all of them) who are at UVA love it.</p>
<p>I hope this helps a little.</p>
<p>It's hard to pin down exactly what makes an Echols Scholar, but when you see the profile of a typical Echols Scholar, it makes sense.</p>
<p>Alumni status matters if your mother or father graduated from that school. In your case, you father did so thats a good thing. It doesn't matter if your brother went there. In my case, I am a first generation college student so I'm up there with alumni status.</p>
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<p>Umm, no. (10)</p>
<p>Thank you, coronax, for the thorough examples. I certainly do agree thatEchols or not, you can't help but fall in love with UVA.</p>
<p>BGjeez, From what I can tell it is more than just test scores and ECs. It has to do with displaying a love of learning and somehow showing that you are interested in more than just getting good grades. I think it has to do wanting to learn for the sake of learning. I don't really think there is anyway to craft your application to show that quality, but I feel like if it is true then it will show.</p>
<p>It also has a lot to do with simply being a strong applicant. One of the stated goals of the program is to grab applicants who would otherwise go to Chicago, Duke, Swarthmore or another top school. If you're some schmuck with a 1320SAT and a top 5% class rank, you might get into UVA, but y'ain't gonna be an Echols Scholar.</p>
<p>i wouldnt call them "schmucks"....1320 and getting into UVA is pretty highly respected and i dont think that you should eb posting on this forum basically being a know-it-all about every single thing...i mean look at you...you have 3000 posts on a board for high schoolers and youre in COLLEGE...go find some friends and stop wasting your life on here</p>
<p>Typical schmuck response</p>
<p>Lol sv3a, I agree.</p>