According to: http://www2.bus.umich.edu/sites/default/files/files/BBABulletin2016-20171.pdf. Ross is getting rid of regular admission in Fall 2018 and is only having preferred admission and transfer admission. Why are they doing this?
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No wonder they have close to 300 preferred enrolled this year. Evidently they are moving away from regular admission.
That actually makes sense. Basically, they make it like a separated school like CoE. The would remove the uncertainty of students solely interested in Ross.
“Why are they doing this?”
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I wouldn’t say that hailbate. It is more to secure the top students by ensuring them on their Ross admissions decision.
Too many strong students aren’t choosing Mich as they may definitely want Business and won’t take a chance of eventually being denied Ross vs assured admissions at say Kelley.
I believe ND did the the same change.
This doesn’t get Michigan more money but the top students won’t go elsewhere for a sure thing at a lesser school of business.
Will the program still be 3 years or will it increase to 4 year degree?
@wayneandgarth I agree. I know several very high stat and well rounded kids (from outofstate) with rigorous academic program (all honors and AP) who were accepted at Michigan (and we’re excited about going) but then got denied preferred admission to Ross. They were very disappointed because they expected to get the preferred admission and would have happily attended. However, their parents did not want to take the risk of paying full pay at $56,000 freshman year without a guarantee their kids would get accepted into Ross after freshman year. They were not willing to major in economics. Michigan lost out on getting full pay OOS top students, who accepted direct admit offers (with lots of merit aid) at Indiana Kelley and Ohio State Fisher.
@trueblue4 It is always a 4 year degree as the current regular admission is in sophomore year. Nevertheless, it will allow Ross to offer freshman courses after the change.
@billcsho I understand Ross now requires 3 prerequisite classes for regular admission and many of students take these basic courses as part of many different degree programs at U of M. If students enter as freshmen and they are required to take Ross courses as freshmen (in addition to the current 3 courses) will transfer students be able to finish in 4 years if they do not have access to the freshman course load?
@trueblue4 The prereqs are Econ 101, any Calc course, and any First Year Writing course, so transfer students should be able to complete those courses at their original school anyways. I am somewhat certain that after they get rid of regular admission, they will not immediately have Ross students take Ross courses in their first year. It would just be that everybody is pre-admit.
Right now all the pre-admits have the same courses as kids planning to apply regular, with the addition of a biweekly 1 hour business seminar, so I would assume they want to have all future Ross students take that
So for students entering in fall 2017, if they don’t get pre admit, they have no chance to transfer in fall 2018? And if that is correct, anyone know how many pre admits they will take for the hs class of 17?
BigPapiofthree, transfer admissions will still be available for students who applied to other schools and colleges at Michigan. Under the new admissions program, Students will be applying directly to Ross and no longer via LSA or CoE. Therefore, applicants who are not admitted to Ross will not be admitted to Michigan…period. I assume students will be allowed to apply to Ross and LSA or to Ross and the CoE for dual degree programs, and those applicants that were only admitted into LSA or the CoE but not into Ross should, if I understood the content in page 9 of the link provided by the OP in post 1, be allowed to apply for transfer into Ross. As for the number of pre admits they will take in 2017, and going forward, I would say Ross will be aiming for classes of 500-550.
If the Ross class will be about 500-550 does that include both pre-admits and transfers (ie. from LSA and other colleges)? Wondering about an LSA student’s real prospects for admission to Ross in 2018 and beyond. Like why would Ross look to accept any transfer students at all if it’s pre admit pool is so large and so strong? One answer might be attrition (in freshman year) but I can’t imagine that’s a significant number.
There has been Regular (internal transfer), Pre-admit and external transfers. There will next be only Pre-admit and external transfers. But, external transfers have been rare and I’m sure will stay that way.
Are you sure W&G? I would assume they like Stern and Wharton, Ross will admit LSA and CoE internal transfers on a limited basis. Perhaps 20-30 annually.
I would think the same @Alexandre - it seems like they will operate like Stern and Wharton.
I hope so yikesyikesyikes. It would seem awefully intransigent of Ross not to admit any internal transfers, but to answer Endeavour10’s question, the vast majority of Ross students will be direct admits from high school. Very few will be internal or external transfers.
Alexandre, not to split hairs but curious where you come up with “Perhaps 20-30 annually”.
Is that based on a certain calculation?
Does anyone know the pre-admit vs. regular admit numbers currently?
The number of transfers is irrelevant Endeavour10. It will be an insignifant number compared to the number of transfer applicants. The vast majority of Ross students will be direct admits from high school.
According to Ross, they will enroll 500 direct admits (preadmits) in each class, which will add up to 80% of the total class. I assume the remaining 20% will be transfers.