<p>I know it's hard to get into (22%), but does anyone have the average stats for this? Are there certain things they like to see or require that LSA doesn't? What are the chances for me to get in if I have a 33 ACT, 3.8-3.9, and good extracurriculars?</p>
<p>i get in pre admit this year and honestly it obviously dosnt hurt to have good grades and scores… but most of their applicants will have around 4.0 gpa’s, lots of AP’s, outstanding extracurriculars and great scores. You need to show interest in business, that means already being involved in some sort of business or have good business experience to tell about, i think of it as almost an essay contest. Who ever can write the best why ross essay will get in.</p>
<p>I have run my own lawn/snowblowing business for the last 4 years. By the time I go to Michigan I will have made around $20,000. Would this be a big help on my application? I go to a school that sends over 30 kids a year to Michigan and I am in the top 10. I heard Michigan gives 15 points (I have heard that’s a lot but I don’t know their point system) to people from our school. So a 3.9 at my school is pretty good.</p>
<p>I think that will help a lot, you just have to tell all about it in the ross essay. And as far as i know michigan has not used the point system in years. My school sends 30-40 students to mich a year too and i know how hard it is to get a 3.8, I was never trying to imply that a 3.9 is bad, it is great, i got in with a 3.75. I was just trying to say that most students applying to ross are going to competitive statistically.</p>
<p>You don’t have to run a business or be involved in business in any way in order to be a preadmit. You just have to have strong business qualities: Leadership, innovativeness, passion, character; all of which can be demonstrated in many, MANY ways. </p>
<p>As long as your test scores and gpa are high and you taken initiative in leadership positions, you should go for it!</p>
<p>Sincerely,
Preadmit</p>
<p>They don’t use the point system anymore? I thought I saw a thread on here a couple weeks ago about the points given to you if you’re a legacy.</p>
<p>They got rid of it to move to holistic admissions when they were forced to stop Affirmative Action.</p>
<p>Jrt, that was about what they did do back when they had a points system, so you could sort of gauge how useful legacy was.</p>
<p>They no longer use points, but they do “holistically evaluate” each school differently, meaning that while they do not assign a numerical weight for your difficult curriculum, they do give “extra consideration” to it. At our school students with 3.6 and 3.5 GPAs get into UMich because of the difficulty of our curriculum, so while there is no numerical weight, the admissions counselors certainly understand which schools are harder than others and adjust decisions accordingly.</p>
<p>My son applied early action, was deferred and finally waitlisted at UMich and (obviously) did not get into Ross. Here are his stats:</p>
<p>Out of state
ACT 33
GPA 3.7 unweighted (this is not the UMich GPA, they compute their own using only Soph and Junior grades with no weighting, but his freshman grades were worse than his sophmore and junior grades)</p>
<p>Took only 3 AP courses (CALC AB as a junior, then CALC BC and Physics as a senior)</p>
<p>Has run an Amazon dot com bookseller business since 6th grade, and tutors math as another part time job.</p>
<p>Soccer team all four years in HS but spring soccer, also ran track for 3 years. </p>
<p>You have the same ACT score and slightly better grades. So I would say your
chances are not great.</p>
<p>Well I’m not OOS so I am hoping I can get in. With my stats I would probably barely get in if I were OOS.</p>
<p>^^^ I mean I would probably barely get into LSA if I were OOS with those numbers.</p>
<p>katytibbs, where did he get in? Running a business from 6th grade sounds pretty impressive to me.</p>
<p>With your numbers and as an instate applicant I would say that you are relatively competitive for Ross pre admit. You will definitely get into UMich, but you are facing a lot of 4.0/33 ACT instate kids who want the same seat at Ross. So here’s your first business challenge: marketing yourself to Ross. You accentuate your strong commitment to business (the business that you started) and any leadership positions you have had in your ECs. Then you write stellar essays that show mature thinking and, if business related, illustrate how you have progressed in your knowledge of business (they don’t want a know-it-all essay about your perfect business, but they do want to know how many times it flopped before it finally took off, etc)</p>
<p>And rest a little easy in that pre admit at Ross this year accepted several of its waitlisted students (check this forum). Apply Early Response, and if you are waitlisted for pre admit at Ross send a good mid-year report and have your counselor do whatever they can to improve your chances.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>^^^^You are correct smart.cookie . Who knows, they still might accept a few more?</p>
<p>a comment, my son was not waitlisted, the first letter from Ross said he was not accepted, then a week ago we got an email Ross “takes time in their process to reevaluate stong applicants” and offerred preferred admittance.</p>
<p>I thought running a business from sixth grade was impressive but he just thinks its routine. I don’t think he gave it enough emphasis on his applications (but he did talk about it in Ross B school essay)</p>
<p>My son did not get into any reach/stretch schools but got honors from almost all the other schools - I think I categorized the safeties/matches for him correctly, but he got a weird luck of the draw and no reach acceptances.</p>
<p>honors acceptances
Rutgers (in state)
American
Pittsburgh
Northeastern
Maryland</p>
<p>admitted but no honors (but they don’t award honors until after the acceptances come in)
SUNY Binghamton</p>
<p>waitlisted
William & Mary
Michigan (applied early admission)</p>
<p>Denied
UNC (applied early admission)
UVA
Duke</p>
<p>He opted not to wait for either waitlisted school, and enrolled at American (Presidential Scholarship for $27,000). At the accepted students day for the Presidential scholars, I was blown away by the other students also accepted - they got into schools he was waitlisted or denied at, or schools he didn’t even think he had a chance of getting into.</p>