<p>Whats the verdict on Ross michigan vs Stern NYU</p>
<p>which is the better B school</p>
<p>It depends. As overall business schools go, Ross is better than Stern. However, for work on Wall Street, I'd say they are about equal.</p>
<p>in what aspects is Ross better than Stern? i thought Stern holds the edge in wall street and am sure that it has better recruitment than Ross in the i-banking field. Stern's finance and international business is better than Ross. Ross holds the edge in Marketing and Management, I think.</p>
<p>I thought you said in your previous posts that they were pretty much equal. overall I would say they are comparable, but each has its own strengths and weaknesses.</p>
<p>Ross and Stern are definitely peers, but I don't think they are exactly equal. Ross is a more well rounded B-school. I don't think Ross is significantly better mind you, but I think it has an edge over Stern. Ross is better than Stern in Accounting, Management, Marketing and Operations. Stern is better in Finance. I do not think International Business is a worthwhile field, especially at the undergraduate level, but even if it were, Ross and Stern are generally tied or one spot above the other in that field. Furthermore, Ross/Michigan have a much larger endowment than Stern/NYU, and that also makes a difference.</p>
<p>As for the Wall Street advantage, I really don't see it. Most Ross students don't concentrate in Finance and have no desire to work in the IBanking field and still, the 4 largest employers of undergrads at Ross last year were IBanks. Over a third of Ross undergrads work for IBanks on Wall street, most of which end up at JP Morgan, UBS, CS First Boston, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Banks, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, Merrill and Lazard. The Carlyle Group, one of the most exclusive Investment firms in the US, has more Ross alums that any other business school save Harvard, Wharton and Tuck. </p>
<p>But it is important to remember than roughly two thirds of Ross students have no desire to work on Wall Street or in finance. They would rather work in a non-finance sector like Marketing, Manufacturing or Consulting. That's another reason I think Ross is slightly better than Stern. There is a diversity of interest. At Stern, over three quarters of the student are only interested in Finance.</p>
<p>"The Carlyle Group, one of the most exclusive Investment firms in the US, has more Ross alums that any other business school save Harvard, Wharton and Tuck." is this for grad school? I guess its because of Stern's focus on finance that it produces more bankers than any other school except maybe Wharton. Ithink it had the most for 2005. Well, I guess I made the right choice by picking Stern, I am really interested in Finance and plus Stern is closer to home. UMich would definetely been my second choice if not Stern. thanks for the info.</p>
<p>In your case, Stern seems to have been the right decision. For a Finance lover, you cannot beat Stern.</p>
<p>choose ross. nyu's grading policy doesn't help u in the long run</p>
<p>since both have similar job placements, why risk ur gpa and grad prospect?</p>
<p>Dude, you are like TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATE!!! LOL!</p>
<p>LOL ^^^^^^
my first choice is stern over ross since i want to go into finance
and plus i ed'd to stern anyways
i dont know why im saying this
MOCK</p>
<p>what i would have said 2 YEARS AGO:</p>
<p>Visit the campus, I saw NYU Stern during my friend's graduation and can't imagine why anyone would want to pay that much money to go there. Facilities were terrible, everything just seems really old, broken down, out dated, and i guess the only thing good about it is that you can work part-time during school, and get some business experience, since it's in manhattan. And Stern's placement into IB positions aren't as great as you might think. The school is like 80% Asian.</p>
<p>Ross > Stern. No question about it in my mind. The "edge" that Stern holds over Ross in finance is negligible. As Alexandre said, Ross is much more well rounded and is much more prestigious worldwide and at top firms (Umich in general). Top consulting firms, for example, recruit at h/y/p/m/s/wharton and Michigan. The Umich name in general holds much more weight than Nyu/stern in any field of business you decide to go into.</p>
<p>I never said it was "much more well rounded". I simply said Ross has an edge over Stern. In other words, it is only slightly better. But I think keefer's point is very important. Michigan has a very distinct campus and very active campus life. NYU doesn't. And with the collapse of Wall Street, Stern's reliance on IBanks is going to hurt it. Michigan has close ties with several industris, including High Tech/IT, Management Consulting and Manufacturing.</p>
<p>Seems like I've made the right decision turning down Stern back then =)</p>
<p>Oh please, Stern grads get Management Consulting jobs too. I know this for a fact because I am going to enter that field soon.</p>
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You're delusional and clearly not a consultant. Dartmouth and Duke blow UMich out of the water and Yale isn't that heavily recruited because of lack of interest among its student body. Stop pretending to be knowledgeable and misleading the OP.</p>
<p>To the OP, I think both are roughly equal. I would go with fit. Michigan is more well-rounded bu Stern has New York City at its disposal.</p>
<p>You don't know what you are talking about ring<em>of</em>fire. I actually work for a major Consulting company. We currently have 6 Michigan alums (out of 150) in the Dubai office alone. </p>
<p>Eight of the top ten MCs recruit heavily at Michigan. Thirty seven (10%) of Ross undergrads joined Management Consulting firms last year. Their median starting salary for those students was $60,000, not including signing bonuses and other guaranteed compensation. Of those 37, 6 joined AT Kearney, 5 joined Bain, 2 joined McKinsey, 2 joined BCG, 2 joined MMC and 1 joined Booz Allen. </p>
<p>There is a reason why Ross is universally ranked among the top 3 General Management programs in the nation. And consulting firms do not restrict their recruitment activities to just Ross. They recruit very heavily at the college of LSA and the CoE. In fact, McKinsey recruits more heavily at LSA than it does at Ross and BCG is more active at the CoE.</p>
<p>Now you touched on something that makes sense. The concept of the nature of the student body. Like the students at Yale, the vast majority of Michigan students aren't interested in careers in IBanking and Consulting. At schools like Dartmouth or Duke, I would not be surprised if 50% of the student body sought careers in IBanking and MC. At Michigan, it is more like 5% or 10%. A good thing for Michigan if you ask me. IBanking is now extinct and MCs are going to suffer for the next 2-3 years. Universities where a large chunk of students wish to pursue careers in those two fields are going to have very discontent student bodies. But make no mistake, the interest from the leading companies in those two industries in recruiting Michigan students is very healthy.</p>
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Oh please, Stern grads get Management Consulting jobs too. I know this for a fact because I am going to enter that field soon.
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<p>As usual, you have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody says Stern grads don't get those jobs, but their focus is on the banking industry. And your backup to your claim is: "I am going to enter that field soon". LOL.</p>
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You're delusional and clearly not a consultant.
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<p>neither are you. But, I am a consultant.</p>
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Dartmouth and Duke blow UMich out of the water and Yale isn't that heavily recruited because of lack of interest among its student body.
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<p>Yale is heavily recruited, and that's a fact.</p>
<p>go to stern</p>