Rutgers Presidential Scholar Question?!

<p>Okay so I know that basically if you're top 5% in your school and your sat is at least 1500 for reading + math, you get full scholarship. (And you maintain 3.0)</p>

<p>Well, what about if you submit an ACT? is there a score where you can just get the scholarship, just like the SAT 1500? (Assuming 5% rank)</p>

<p>also, i noticed rutgers doesn't post average ACT scores for their admitted students.</p>

<p>I’m not sure if the 5% rule is set in stone. My now-college sophomore friend got an offer for a full ride to Rutgers when he applied, but was merely top 10% (not 5%), with a 2250 SAT score. I think they might be a bit more holistic in their approach. (The friend went to Northwestern instead btw.)</p>

<p>They don’t post average ACT scores because the majority of applicants take the SAT, especially the majority of applicants from NJ.</p>

<p>Hm… that sounds good. Does it work the other way around too?</p>

<p>What do you think my chances are to get a full ride if i have a 32 ACT Composite and my ranking is 3%?</p>

<p>The website says 1950. It helps to have a 1500 CR+M composite, but with scores like that, you’d be better off shooting for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford and getting a kick*** financial aid package at those schools instead.</p>

<p>I thought the 1950 was just representative of if you’re qualified to apply for the scholarship, and maybe not full scholarship(?).</p>

<p>anyone have an answer to this?</p>

<p>Rutgers used to have a grid on their website that listed what minimum SAT or ACT and GPA were needed for what scholarship. I can’t seem to find it now, though I remember a friend aiming for a equivalent score Rutgers’ website said for ACT when they couldn’t get a 1500 M+CR SAT.</p>

<p>It was 35/36 composite to equal the 1500 combined Math and Reading Score. Pretty damn hard to get.</p>

<p>Does anyone know whether it is mandatory to get a 1500 SAT or is the award based more holistically?</p>

<p>Rutgers… <a href=“http://admissions.rutgers.edu/Costs/Scholarships/FirstYearScholarships.aspx[/url]”>http://admissions.rutgers.edu/Costs/Scholarships/FirstYearScholarships.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>***There is no set of “numbers” that will guarantee a scholarship or scholarship amount. Rather we look at the whole of a student’s record. Most past scholarship awardees were in the top 10% of their high school graduating class, with many in the top 5%; most had A or A- high school GPA’s, and most had combined SAT’s of 1950 or higher.</p>

<p>Please note that each Rutgers school or college selects scholarship recipients to shape their entering class. Therefore it is possible for a student admitted to several academic units within Rutgers to receive scholarship awards in amounts that vary by school/college.</p>

<p>Award Process</p>

<p>Fall first-year admitted students who meet the minimum eligibility requirements below are reviewed for scholarships by the schools and colleges to which they have been admitted. Scholarships are offered for a total of four years provided recipients maintain a grade-point average of 3.0 or better. We will consider students who: </p>

<p>Submit their application and all credentials including application fee or fee waiver request form, Self-Reported Academic Record, officially reported SAT or ACT scores with Writing by December 1, 2009, our priority application date. (As a courtesy, we will use improved test scores from tests administered no later than January 1, 2010 to determine scholarship awards).
***</p>

<p>***Scholarship Awards
Presidential Scholarship</p>

<p>The Presidential Scholarship is the most prestigious scholarship award Rutgers offers undergraduates. Awards are $21,400 per year for a maximum of $85,600 for four years, and include a $9,900 credit for on-campus housing and dining. For those who choose not to live on campus, the award will be $11,500. Admission to honors programs and guaranteed housing for four years are additional benefits. </p>

<p>***</p>

<p>I don’t see where Rutgers is suggesting what stats the typical Presidential scholar has. If others are saying that such students have at least a M+CR SAT of 1500, that sounds about right when compared to what other schools expect for such a scholarship. ** A 1500+ SAT (M+CR) is equal to an ACT 33+ ** </p>

<p>Your 32 ACT is equal to a 1410-1450 M+CR SAT…so that would be a little short if Rutgers expects its Presidential scholars to have at least a 1500.</p>

<p>In post #2, it refers to the student with a SAT of 2250, that SAT is about equivalent to an ACT 34.</p>

<p>So, while it is likely that you’ll get **some **scholarship (since your ACT 32 exceeds SAT 1950), you can’t expect to get the Presidential, since your 32 ACT is under the “at least 1500 SAT” equivalent. BTW…a 1950 SAT is about the same as an ACT 30.</p>

<p>Is Rutgers your financial safety?</p>

<p>The confusion lies in this: Up to this year, Rutgers basically had a cut-and-dry criteria for scholarships posted on their website. It was in chart format. 1500 SAT & top 5% and you automatically got a full ride. 1400-1500 & top 5% and you got half ride. And so on. Now, this year, they have removed this chart and instead replaced it with the above disclaimer, that their approach is basically more flexible, without referencing their past history of non-flexible judgments. Hence all the confusion, I think. Now, were they really as inflexible as they said they were? It seems so, based on previous posters. But they’ve announced they will be more flexible, without really saying exactly what the criteria are. I’m assuming that SATs and GPA remain important; they had only one essay. But we won’t really know until the awards are given. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed; this more flexible approach is all for the good, I feel.</p>

<p>^^^^</p>

<p>What do you think the cause of the change was? </p>

<p>Economic woes? Or, the desire to recruit specific students for various reasons?</p>

<p>State budget woes – I doubt this will continue to be awarded as a merit scholarship but will be come needs based.</p>

<p>My Daughter got the Rutgers Presidential Scholarship too:) but anybody knows the 6 years pharmacy why they only gave 4 years? Thanks!</p>

<p>Hi everyone! I’m new member here. Nice to meet you all. I hope I will get help from there and make lots of friends here. Thanks !</p>

<p>babybob,
Pretty sure they will only give the scholarship for 4 years. I believe all aid are only renewable 3 times so you only get aid in your undergrad years.</p>

<p>babybob, the Presidential $ is only awarded for undergrad work (the first 4 yrs). The next 2 years are considered grad work and the rules are different (loans offered are larger). This is true everywhere I believe, not just RU.</p>

<p>HELPPPPP!!! I have a question, if you send in your DEcember ACT/SAT score, can you still qualify for the award? for 2010. the 2009 specified. but they didnt this year. I NEED HELPPP</p>

<p>Rutgers cut back merit aid due to state budget woes, so they now euphemistically say awards are “wholistic.” What they mean is that you won’t get guaranteed scholarships according to stats. It will vary according to the schools, and the cutoffs will be higher for the Pharm and Business Schools, for example, because those applicants have higher stats. Applicants in those areas were garnering more merit that students in the other schools, and Rutgers decided to trim that. Also, Rutgers wanted some more leeway–for example with applicants whose high schools didn’t weight grades or rank, or for kids who had some other compelling thing in their application but were a little shy of the cutoff. They are counting the SAT writing scores now, which they did not do previously. SAT scores of 2250 and top 5% should be pretty competitive for the Presidential, but I would call to check with Rutgers about cutoffs for your intended school. Also, ask how many years it takes kids to graduate with a degee in the area you want to study. Engineering typically takes 5 years. The Presidential is for 4–you’d have to pay for the 5th year or take summer classes to graduate in 4, and the Presidential wouldn’t cover those. Also, ask how many students lose the scholarship because their GPA dips too low. It happens.</p>

<p>ProxyGC, are you sure that one doesn’t exactly need a 2250 minimum SAT score to get the Pres. Scholarship for Rutgers Pharm?</p>

<p>bc i have a a 2230 SAT I (20 points lower than the minimum!) but am number 1 in school, so i’m hoping Rutgers will still consider me for the Pres. Scholarship! </p>

<p>please reply back. thanks ;)</p>