<p>"The SATs are important because every high school in the country (and world) is different, and a standard measure must be used (like the SAT) to gauge how well a student can do.
A person with high GPA but low SAT is by no means stupid. What it means is that their high school has not adequately equipped them with the knowledge/reasoning skills tested on the SAT. If they went to a better high school, their GPA would be high but not as high, and they'd probably do better on the SATs as well."</p>
<p>Sorry about mulitiple posts. I was answering individual posts. So you honestly believe that anyone with a high GPA and low SAT must not have gone to a good high school? You believe they should have a lower GPA and that would make it a better high school? Excuse me but that is convoluted logic at best.</p>
<p>No, it's logic you misinterpret. If they have a high GPA, then it means they do well in their classes. If they do well in their classes, it means they study the material and gain knowledge and academic skills. A good high school gives its students enough of those knowledge and skills to do well on the SAT.</p>
<p>A student with a high GPA therefore, should do well on the SAT. If they don't, it means their high school didn't prepare them well enough, meaning it's not as good of a high school. How would a lower GPA at that school make it a "better school"? The GPA-SAT test, while not 100% accurate, works well enough.<br>
A low GPA and low SAT, or a medium GPA and medium SAT, match each other. But a high GPA/low SAT combo means something is amiss (grade inflation or not-as-good high school).</p>
<p>On the other hand, a low GPA with high SATs is a sign that their high school prepared them for the SAT, but that the student does not put much effort into getting good grades ("underachiever").</p>
<p>"No, it's logic you misinterpret. If they have a high GPA, then it means they do well in their classes. If they do well in their classes, it means they study the material and gain knowledge and academic skills. A good high school gives its students enough of those knowledge and skills to do well on the SAT.</p>
<p>A student with a high GPA therefore, should do well on the SAT. If they don't, it means their high school didn't prepare them well enough, meaning it's not as good of a high school. How would a lower GPA at that school make it a "better school"? The GPA-SAT test, while not 100% accurate, works well enough.
A student with a high GPA should be smart enough to do well on the SAT. If he/she does not, it means the high school didn't prepare them. A low GPA and low SAT, or a medium GPA and medium SAT, match."</p>
<p>What if the student just doesn't do well with standardized, timed tests? It has nothing to do with the quality of the high school. Besides, the SATs are not a good predictor of how a student will perform in college and, most importantly, in the real world. One word: Experience.</p>
<p>"Basically what Im saying is, people have different opinions. Youre not gonna reach an agreement upon which test score should be the limit of stupidity, because its all opinionated. People are really getting off track too in this thread, lol. It started by just posting low scores (in your opinion) and it got to a debate like this. To me, if you get over 1000 SAT M/V, you did alright, and you should just be thankful for what you have (a working brain). It doesnt mean your stupid if you score a 1050, but like I said, you just didnt do well on the test. It happens."</p>
<p>Well I'm with you for most of this except the "you have to get over a 1000" to have a working brain. There are many successful people - both in college and real life - who scored less than that on their SATs. Oh and I disagree about the turn this thread took. I think it's interesting.</p>
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<p>I do agree with most of this here, because some people don't do well with standardized/timed tests. The SAT isn't perfect, but I think it's necessary to get an idea of how one person stacks up against many others.
Also, you're right about how it doesn't predict success. GPA is a better prediction of success... but it also depends on whether the student had to work for it or not (at better schools, it's harder to get a good GPA).</p>
<p>Well, the valedictorian at my high school got like an 1180 on her SAT. I guess I crusher her with a 1270. I love the SAT test because I believe it was a way to prove how smart you are, if your someone like me who doesn't HAVE to do their homework perfectly every night. I mean I still had a 3.5 or 90 Average, but I go a decent amount (maybe 3 or 4) D's. in a couple tough academic classes. (Chemistry and Trig-PreCalc.) </p>
<p>I think the SAT measures your smarts. Anyone with enough dedication and some above average Brains can study extra hard and be top ten in their class. But not everyone can be good on their SAT's</p>
<p>If the ads were correct I could have had a 1370 if I decided I wanted a better score but that was enough to get me into PSU (a top 50 college).</p>
<p>AND I might add that class rank is stupid as well. There are literally kids with 1000's on their SAT's ahead of me because they take easier Classes. so that doesn't really matter in my opinion either, at least in my school.</p>
<p>-I love the SAT test because I believe it was a way to prove how smart you are, if your someone like me who doesn't HAVE to do their homework perfectly every night.
I think the SAT measures your smarts. Anyone with enough dedication and some above average Brains can study extra hard and be top ten in their class. But not everyone can be good on their SAT's</p>
<p>If the ads were correct I could have had a 1370 if I decided I wanted a better score but that was enough to get me into PSU (a top 50 college).-</p>
<p>Good luck at Penn State with that attitude. Great SATs won't make you a star at Penn State.</p>
<p>-AND I might add that class rank is stupid as well. There are literally kids with 1000's on their SAT's ahead of me because they take easier Classes. so that doesn't really matter in my opinion either, at least in my school.-</p>
<p>Must be how your school does class rank then. Most will count harder classes in your favor when ranking.</p>
<p>-I do agree with most of this here, because some people don't do well with standardized/timed tests. The SAT isn't perfect, but I think it's necessary to get an idea of how one person stacks up against many others.
Also, you're right about how it doesn't predict success. GPA is a better prediction of success... but it also depends on whether the student had to work for it or not (at better schools, it's harder to get a good GPA).-</p>
<p>Maybe we are on the same page then, at least for the most part. I still don't think a high school is necessarily bad if a student has a high GPA and an average at best SAT score. To some extent and at some schools, perhaps the SAT could give an idea or comparison. But I still maintain, for example, that someone with <1000 on the old SAT can do very well in college and in the real world.</p>