Sarah Palin thinks only small towns are pro-America

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Well, I think it was her pro-American comment that caused the uproar.</p>

<p>Like McCain’s advisor yesterday said people in southern Virginia live in the “real” Virginia. </p>

<p>It’s just a very insulting and demeaning form of bigotry, especially considering that pro-America rural areas tend to get significantly more federal handouts generated by tax revenue in the anti-America liberal areas. Pro-America areas also have significantly higher rates of divorce, abortion, and domestic abuse. God bless America…</p>

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<p>apple, I’m really astounded at the level that your rhetoric gets sometimes. Judging other’s religiosity, calling her unmoral, etc., I’ll try to let go of that kind of hooplah, but you’re really at the point where if I bother with you, it becomes a fight of whether to validate the nonsense that you spew. </p>

<p>The “Real” VA comment I can get why some people are mad over, but honestly, get over Palin.</p>

<p>I mean, you can cry about her pro-America comments all you want like she’s some kind of evil separatist while ignoring the negative comments Barack has said, that’s your prerogative. </p>

<p>Here’s Sarah word on it</p>

<p>CNN: You’ve talked about America. And certain parts of America, that are maybe more American than other parts of American, Are there?</p>

<p>Palin: Ehhh, I don’t want that misunderstood. No, I do not want that misunderstood. You know, when I go to these rallies and we see the patriotism just shining through these people’s faces and the Vietnam veterans wearing their hats so proudly and they have tears in their eyes as we sing our national anthem and it is so inspiring and I say that this is true America, you get it, you understand how important it is that in the next four years we have a leader who will fight for you. I certainly don’t want that interpreted as one area being more patriotic or more American than another. If that’s the way it’s come across, I apologize. </p>

<p>It’s a lot easier to figure out than Obama’s twisting of his clear judgments on us.</p>

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<p>No, don’t let her off the hook. If she’s happy to be in a pro-America part of the U.S., then by definition there MUST be anti-America parts of the U.S. We deserve to know where those places are so we can avoid them.</p>

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<p>Pug, when someone consistently lies to me, it reveals their character.</p>

<p>When a candidate bases much of their being where they are on the fact that they profess a certain religion, I will expect them to act in accordance with that religion’s highest expectations. </p>

<p>George W. Bush came into office because he was an alcoholic and then needed an unambiguous spiritual doctrine to stabilize himself, so he found God through evangelicalism.</p>

<p>George W. Bush proceded to lie, manipulate facts that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of human beings, and put incompetent people in charge of life-or-death situations. </p>

<p>His behavior reveals that he, too, is a person lacking moral conviction and not living up to the tenets of the faith to which he professes an adherence.</p>

<p>This isn’t just “conservative bashing”. It’s expecting people to live up to a faith they use for political gain. You can’t just call yourself a Christian, and then spread lies about yourself and others and expect to be respected as a Christian.</p>

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<p>The choice is yours. You can continue to be an ignorant partisan that deems another person totally lacking in character or you can be an independent thinker and realize that Obama is just another opportunist politician that is just as willing to twist and lie about the other side’s record.</p>

<p>No surprise you don’t go into any specificity about what a horrible Christian Sarah Palin is.</p>

<p>Let’s see. He gladfully distorts McCain’s assertion of a possibility of a 100 year presence into Iraq into 100 year war.</p>

<p>“The only involvement I’ve had with ACORN was I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs,” Obama declared at last night’s debate in response to a statement from Sen. John McCain.</p>

<p>Complicit in a strange ad tying Limbaugh to McCain, somehow associating distorted Limbaugh comments with McCain.</p>

<p>Continues to spook seniors about Social Security, by claiming their money would now be in the stock market under McCain’s plan.</p>

<p>Completely lies about his position on stem-cell research funding.</p>

<p>Said he’s always been against the Iraq war, but during the 2004 election, he politically calculated to be ambiguous, then admitted he did so to save his party’s ass when he could’ve stood on his own principles.</p>

<p>The list goes on and on.</p>

<p>Why even bother with Obama koolaid drinking bots when they can’t even face reality, act holier and thou and deem other as sick, but turn their heads away from a man that has praised Ayers, Farrakan, Wright. It doesn’t make any sense to me.</p>

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<p>Go steal another Obama sign, pugfug.</p>

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<p>Okay, Pug. I’m gonna play your game. I never said Obama doesn’t lie. He’s a politician. There’s a difference between stretching or twisting the truth and repeating bald-faced lies over and over and over again.</p>

<p>The 100 years in Iraq comment, while distorted by Democrats, is akin to McCain repeating that Obama wants to “give 95% of Americans a tax break”. Obama never said that. He said 95% of working families. Huge difference. Both distortions. It’s just politics.</p>

<p>ACORN: You do realize that McCain was a keynote speaker at an ACORN event in 2006, right? You’re buying into a manufactured crisis designed to incite fear. And, for the Republicans to be raising the issue of voter fraud is pretty laughable. They rigged and stole both the 2000 and 2004 elections (look it up - the evidence is overwhelming). Bush should have legally never been president. He’s a criminal who could be in prison for treason and murder (“The Case Against George W. Bush for Murder”). </p>

<p>factcheck.org:<br>

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<p>As for Obama’s relationship, a little more complicated than he let on, but not really a lie seeing as most of his experiences were through other organizations and McCain himself has worked with ACORN. You’re turning it into some horrible organization, which it isn’t - at least McCain didn’t think so. It works to help people:</p>

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<p>The Limbaugh ad was not their proudest moment, but the only association was by putting McCain’s picture in the ad. Still, you’re right, that it shouldn’t have done it. They don’t need low road politics.</p>

<p>As for the Iraq war, a good politician knows when to be ambiguous. That’s not a lie. He came out against it before it started.</p>

<p>Before turning Ayers, Farrakhan, and Wright into horrible monsters, consider the fact that Ayers is a college professor and was asked by the arch conservative Annenburg to be on his board for education reform. Wright has done an incredible amount of work for the poor and runs a church that attracts many respectable professionals. I don’t know enough about Farrakhan to comment.</p>

<p>Anyway, if you can’t see the difference between these two candidates’ record of lies, then I don’t know what to say. McCain, in 2000, defended “spreading the wealth” when asked by a college student why or doctor father paid higher taxes. When she said it’s socialism, McCain made the exact same argument Obama does today. He used to be against torture, offshore drilling, and the fanatical religious takeover of his party.</p>

<p>Wow. I wrote a pug-style diatribe. I need a life.</p>

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<p>Mr. I can denounce other’s people religiosity, I applaud you for facing reality, even though you had to throw in a couple of doozies in there :)</p>

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<p>…umm, yes. When someone claims to follow a religion and then promotes very unethical actions (lying, murdering, cheating), I feel it’s apt to point out the hypocrisy…</p>

<p>But I’m glad we finally agree. You’re wrong. I’m Wright.</p>

<p>(haha - that was for you).</p>

<p>Good discussion.</p>

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<p>You’re funny :)</p>

<p>No specifics cited, no surprise.</p>

<p>No surprise you accuse one side of somethings but ignore blatant reported things about Barack tsk tsk</p>

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<p>“They rigged and stole both the 2000 and 2004 elections”</p>

<p>This is blatantly false. In Florida 2000 Gore would only have won if every vote was counted. Under Gore’s own rules for the recount, he did not want every vote counted. It’s estimated that Gore would have won by 100 votes if every vote had been counted, and lost by 200 if the recount had continued under Gore’s rules.</p>

<p>In 2004 polls predicted Bush would win Ohio by about 2 points. He then won by 2.1. No election rigging necessary.</p>

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Ohio was absolutely rigged by the Secretary of State in 2004. Check the facts. Polls are irrelevant. I’d be shocked if the actual election is as much of a landslide this year as polling indicates it will be.</p>

<p>As for pugfug’s feigned outrage over my comments about immoral (not unmoral) and unChristian behavior, I guess I’m confused as to what specifics you want. You accuse me (on other threads, no less) of being “in the tank”. It’s funny because I’m anything but. I’m an independent. I just know criminal behavior when I see it and I tend to not appreciate it. There is this assumption that outrage over our hijacked Constitution and White House over the past 8 years is just “liberals in the tank”. </p>

<p>These are criminals that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Included in the articles of impeachment are false pretenses of war and blocking investigations into what actually happened on 9/11. People died under the watch a guy with a background in horses was put in the head position at FEMA through cronyism. Yes, there were failures at the local and state level, but this was a multi-state disaster. Even the Justice Department was rigged to do the will of the Executive Branch. </p>

<p>I mean, it’s no oral sex, mind you, but being complicit in deaths, lies, and unconstitional redistribution of power strikes me as wrong, politically and spiritually. If you couldn’t see the lies and manipulation back in the 2002 build up to Iraq (and I was paying very close attention), then you should question who is in the tank.</p>

<p>It doesn’t take someone to be in the tank of one side to identify criminal behavior. Stop making this partisan. These are high crimes and misdemeanors:</p>

<p>Articles of impeachment:</p>

<p>Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq. </p>

<p>Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.</p>

<p>Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.</p>

<p>Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.</p>

<p>Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.</p>

<p>Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of H. J. Res114.</p>

<p>Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.</p>

<p>Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.</p>

<p>Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor.</p>

<p>Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes. </p>

<p>Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq.</p>

<p>Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation’s Natural Resources.</p>

<p>Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other Countries.</p>

<p>Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency.</p>

<p>Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq.</p>

<p>Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors.</p>

<p>Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives.</p>

<p>Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy.</p>

<p>Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to “Black Sites” Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture.</p>

<p>Article XX
Imprisoning Children.</p>

<p>Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government.</p>

<p>Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws.</p>

<p>Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.</p>

<p>Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment.</p>

<p>Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens.</p>

<p>Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements. </p>

<p>Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply.</p>

<p>Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice. </p>

<p>Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965. </p>

<p>Article XXX<br>
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare.</p>

<p>Article XXXI<br>
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency.</p>

<p>Article XXXII<br>
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change.</p>

<p>Article XXXIII<br>
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.</p>

<p>Article XXXIV<br>
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001.</p>

<p>Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders.</p>

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<p>Apparently someone’s gone off the deep end. You can call yourself an independent if it makes you happy :)</p>

<p>She calls herself a Christian, yet has no moral compass of honesty or integrity. That’s not very Christ-like to me.</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>bla bla bla Bush bad=Palin is horrible woman</p>

<p>right…:rolleyes:</p>

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<p>Okay if we’re talking about Palin then we drop the murder and breaking of Constitution charges, obviously.</p>

<p>Then we just have someone who has knowingly repeated lies both about herself and other candidates for political gain and has betrayed ethical standards as governor of Alaska. It’s nothing illegal, just a betrayal of the premise of her candidacy. If she were not chosen in large part because of her religion, it would not be an issue. It’s like her $150,000 wardrobe funded by the RNC. If she were not running on the platform that she’s “one of us”, then it wouldn’t be an issue. </p>

<p>I don’t think Palin’s a bad person at all. I just think she’s involved in a very unethical campaign. That is not to say that I think Obama/Biden are running a campaign sent from the heavens. </p>

<p>And I am independent. I’m a libertarian, ultimately. I don’t believe the progressive tax structure works very well and I think an evolved society moves beyond any need for government interference. We’re not there yet, so I hedge my bet with the side that is progressing us toward being able to do without government by pushing for equal opportunity and ecological sustainability.</p>

<p>But, I don’t support the use of government to spread the wealth to the upper income echelons, so I’m voting for Obama. </p>

<p>Any other accusations? :)</p>

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<p>I’ve actually specified what Obama has twisted about McCain, and yet you refuse to specify one.</p>

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I don’t think Palin’s a bad person at all.*</p>

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She calls herself a Christian, yet has no moral compass of honesty or integrity. That’s not very Christ-like to me.*</p>

<p>There’s only one person you’re fooling ;)</p>

<p>A columnist for the WaPo isn’t having none of the Obama koolaid.</p>

<p>* The double standard here is stunning. Obama ran a scurrilous Spanish-language ad falsely associating McCain with anti-Hispanic slurs. Another ad falsely claimed that McCain supports “cutting Social Security benefits in half.” And for months Democrats insisted that McCain sought 100 years of war in Iraq.</p>

<p>McCain’s critics are offended that he raised the issue of William Ayers. What’s astonishing is that Obama was himself not offended by William Ayers.</p>

<p>Moreover, the most remarkable of all tactical choices of this election season is the attack that never was. Out of extreme (and unnecessary) conscientiousness, McCain refused to raise the legitimate issue of Obama’s most egregious association – with the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Dirty campaigning, indeed.*</p>

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<p>I think Palin becomes a bad person when she engages in politics. There’s absolutely no excuse for her incessant and seemingly instinctive lying, as well as inciting outright hatred and violence against a man who is of a race that was persecuted and lynched not too long ago. She must claim some personal responsibility for that; after all, aren’t the Republicans nominally the party of taking responsibility?</p>

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<p>With all the web searches you do into politics, do you really need someone to point out the pathological lies Palin repeats?</p>

<p>bridge to nowhere and still taking the federal money</p>

<p>Palin claims to oppose earmarks, yet took many, many millions in pork for both Wassila and Alaska.</p>

<p>percent of oil produced in Alaska relative to the national whole</p>

<p>progress of the natural gas pipeline</p>

<p>“winging it” when the teleprompter broke at the convention (it didn’t)</p>

<p>Accusing Obama of “palling around with terrorists” because they were on the board of a conservative education reform initiative together.</p>

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<p>Wait, so you still insist that she “calls herself a Christian, yet has no moral compass of honesty or integrity. That’s not very Christ-like to me”? I could go on and on and make the case about Obama as the antiChrist the way that you make Palin out to be a monster, but I’m not stupid.</p>

<p>Let’s have some straight talk.</p>

<p>Federal funds are already designated for the states, it’s a matter of prioritizing the money and making sure they aren’t wastefully and abusively spent
[CNSNews.com</a> - Obama Earmarks Benefited Donors and Relatives, Group Says](<a href=“Front Page Featured | MRCTV”>Front Page Featured | MRCTV)
Like money for your friends/families, money for your wife’s hospital, where her salary soon skyrocketed. Or money for some “garden” to a friend that never got built.That’s the kind of cronyism that McCain and Palin have fought against.
[Washington</a> Times - GOP pushes for Biden’s earmarks list](<a href=“http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/16/gop-pushes-for-biden-to-release-earmarks-list/]Washington”>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/16/gop-pushes-for-biden-to-release-earmarks-list/)
That’s the kind of cronyism that Biden is trying to hide and Obama has relished in.</p>

<p>Yeah, she “lied” about oil production, she deliberately twisted that number, yeah, right :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Yeah, she “lied” about finally getting the $40 billion pipeline started without the conditions and giveaways that the lobbyists wanted, lied about the fact that the project had been in the clouds, but is finally getting started :rolleyes:</p>

<p>She “lied” about “winging it”, because source “A” and she said so, but source “B” said no, therefore she was wrong, and you know right?</p>

<p>She “lied” about the fact that Obama has more than a flimsy relationship with a guy that isn’t sorry about his actions.</p>

<p>Your case of the horrible woman that Palin is absolutely laughable. Honestly, read it again :cool:</p>

<p>Palin 1 You 0</p>

<p>Denying that Obama has absolutely not been forthright and honest about himself and the image he portrays rather than the person he is while grasping at straws in an attempt at character assasination? Priceless.</p>

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<p>Gore request for recounts of all ballots in Broward, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, and Volusia counties: Bush by 225</p>

<p>Standard as set by each county Canvassing Board during their survey: Gore by 171</p>

<p>Under Gore’s rules, Gore lost.</p>

<p>As for 2004, Bush won Ohio. Look at the exit polls. They were conducted by CNN and therefore immune to voter fraud from the secretary of state.</p>

<p>[CNN.com</a> Election 2004](<a href=“http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages/results/states/OH/P/00/epolls.0.html]CNN.com”>CNN.com Election 2004)</p>

<p>Bush won, no matter what way you look at it.</p>

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<p>Why it’s so hard for you to understand how people who lie, manipulate, and cheat violate the 10 Commandments is beyond me. </p>

<p>Maybe you seriously do only surround yourself with conservative talk radio. The rest of society is in pretty universal agreement that Palin has run a campaign based on lies, if news reports are to be believed.</p>

<p>Find your own catch phrase, by the way.</p>
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