SAT II: U.S. History Discussion May 2009

<p>ok so i calculated it…if i subtract the 5, it leaves 85</p>

<p>then i multiply the 9 by 1/4 and get 2.25…
then i subtract that from 85 and get 82.75…</p>

<p>82/90 is my final score? what would that be</p>

<p>i’m probably definitely wrong. but i DEFINITELY remember a question that had unrestricted submarine warfare as a choice.</p>

<p>w8 are my calculations even correct? i checked the blue book scalings and it said i had a 800</p>

<p>that doesnt seem correct…is it?</p>

<p>tehcakeisaLIE…you did it wrong lol</p>

<p>5 blank 9 wrong is…</p>

<p>76/90-(9*1/4)=73.75/90</p>

<p>Are you guys really that naive? Portugal was the first to explore asian/indian lands.
Spain was the first to systematically explore the AMERICAS.
I think collegeboard expected us to know that we were taking a US HISTORY exam and not a world history exam…</p>

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<p>The answer is MA, not FL…FL was Spain, which was the establishment of St. Augustine, first capital in US.</p>

<p>^yeah… Spain is still European…</p>

<p>lol yea i figured that out…forgot to count number of right answers and subtract</p>

<p>eh its like a 750-760, lol</p>

<p>That is not correct.</p>

<p>You’re forgetting to factor in the fact that each question you don’t get means you lose a point for it too.</p>

<p>So, what you’ve really lost is, -14 + -2 which is a -16.</p>

<p>Think of it logically–you lose 5 points for omitting five, meaning missing 9 question is the same. Then, you lose 1/4 of that worth as a penalty.</p>

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<p>That’s 26. You’d get a 700 flat, perhaps higher with a better curve.</p>

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<p>I totally agree. But it never says Americas.</p>

<p>At the same time, however, I disagree that Portugal systematically explored anything. They were sporadic and attempted to be all over the place–I can’t actually think of say, 7 or 8, expeditions to the same area, which is what Spain did with the Americas.</p>

<p>w8 so i skipped about 5. So i subtract 5 from 90 and get an 85. then from there, I count the number that I got right, which is about 76, and then I count the number that I got wrong, which is 9. I multiply the 9 by 1/4 and subtract that from 76. I get 74=760</p>

<p>I don’t see how I lost -16…</p>

<p>can someone post a link with different scales over the years?
trying to figure out if i got an 800</p>

<p>red: although it may not directly state the americas, don’t you think collegeboard expected us to figure it was the americas that they were talking about?</p>

<p>Start from 90. -5 for blanks, -9 for each wrong then -2 for penalization. That totals to 16.</p>

<p>Your 74 is = 90-16 -___-</p>

<p>I calculated your raw too =P</p>

<p>That is 750 on some charts, also. Don’t sweat it. Lol</p>

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<p>I think Spain is the answer because there is no way you should know the answer to the question in a general fashion.</p>

<p>I will be honest: I had no clue, at all, that Portugal had explored more. I literally read this AP preparation book called “United States History” it’s like 675 pages for this. It never. Even once. Mentioned. Portuguese. Exploration.</p>

<p>Sure, they co-captained ONE journey with Spain. I don’t remember which one it is, but that’s about it. It’s never UNIQUE to Portugal. The fact that they use systematic I think is very indicative that it’s Spain.</p>

<p>Unless you’ve taken world, you shouldn’t know (or Euro) that Henry the Navigator and the sailors under him were really amazing before the Spanish began exploring North America. It’s simply true.</p>

<p>I had no idea–and if, if, college board marks this wrong on someone’s in-depth score analysis? Post it here or something. I’m very confident that some sort of email, letter, etc will win us some points back–it’s not in the curriculum, they totally blind sided us, etc.</p>

<p>This also applies to things like the Tonkin vs. UN resolutions. Both technically mandate stuff. Not to mention the hyperspecific, impossible to evaluate question about JFK, Nixon, and McCarthy.</p>

<p>lol ok but i thought that you dont do minus -9…you just count how many you got wrong, multiply that by 1/4, get the -2, then just subtract that?</p>

<p>Cake, counting up or down does the same thing.</p>

<p>XD</p>

<p>Sigh. C’est la vie =P</p>

<p>well in fact, if they were talking about the world, chinese explorers and maybe vikings would come before portuguese lol
portuguese did indeed explore before spain but if we go into world history it is all relative and this question probably meant the US
oh and the nixon jfk mccarthy thing is definetly anti communists
they were all anticommunists at that time
nixon is clearly anti communist from alger hiss, mccarthy is obvious, and well jfk inaguaral adress if full of anti communist stuff
" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
their anti-communism overshadows any war hero stuff they have</p>

<p>I would love for that to be true, but unfortunately, no :&lt;/p>

<p>First off, systematically sorta offsets all of that too Lemonio. Did they make systematic visits? I have no clue at all, to be honest, like I’ve said earlier…I only STUDIED FOR THIS TEST. I have 0 clue what other people have done this or that… in terms of these other nations. Let’s put it this way…Portugal’s influence on US history has been extremely minimal. So let’s just exclude them =P</p>

<p>Anyways, your anticommunist defense heartens me, but doesn’t really respond to Lancer.</p>

<p>Lancer points out that at the very start of their careers, they were all WWII “heroes.” This is TRUE. They were all officers. However, McCarthy was never a hero, not was Nixon. I know that JFK was a hero, but I don’t remember him ever running as one. I think that that’s what’s key–what did they APPEAR as in the political arena?</p>

<p>I think Eisenhower clearly appeared as a general. Like we learn that in US history. But I’ve never learned about any of the other 3 men’s WWII escapades…</p>

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<li>Monroe Doctrine</li>
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<p>does anyone remember the question for this?
i remember the answer choices mentioned something like “collective protection” and “unilateral principle”? or is that a different question</p>

<p>I just joined after lurking a bit to respond to this topic :P.</p>

<p>First off, I have to say that the systematic exploration must be Spain. Many people here have said that Portugal were the first, but what about the vikings? Obviously, the keyword is systematic, so that clearly points to Spain as the choice.</p>

<p>For the JFK anticommunist question, I remember my APUSH teacher stressing how he was a war hero, so that pointed out to me and I chose that choice. However, they all relate to anticommunism, but they did not START that way, that’s why I ruled out the choice.</p>

<p>Also, I think one of the questions that nobody has mentioned is the chinese fence cartoon.</p>

<p>I think one of us should write a letter to the collegeboard to question the validity of the question and perhaps earn us all a few points or a more lenient curve :D.</p>

<p>Please be Spain, overproduction, Asians!!
Washington Conference - naval arms. I changed at the last minute.
Farewell to Arms, oh wait, changed that one also. ■■■</p>