<p>I am not what most of us would consider Princeton material, but due to some extremely unusual opportunities that have presented themselves lately, I have decided that it would be worth my time to at least apply. Here's my dilemma.
The only subjects test that I have any reasonable chance of scoring higher than a 700 on are Math I, Math II, and Chemistry. I can easily score an 800 on both math sections. However among the other tests, I would be extremely lucky to score above a 600 - in fact I can't even be certain of a score in or above the 500's..</p>
<p>I need to know, would it be okay if I took Math I, Math II, and Chemistry this November and planned for these tests to account for the required 3 subject tests? According Princeton's site : "All applicants must submit the results of three SAT Subject Tests. Applicants should have official score reports sent to Princeton by the testing agencies. Subject Tests should be in three different subjects."</p>
<p>I can tell that math I and math II encompass one subject area : math.. but, I also realize they are different tests and are hence different subject tests. If it somehow can be considered that I have met all the admissions criteria by taking and receiving this : </p>
<p>Math II : 800 Chem 700 and Math I 800</p>
<p>I'm sure it would look much better than : </p>
<p>Math II : 800 Chem 700 and US history : 510</p>
<p>I would like a definite answer from someone who really knows the answer; I realize logically that the answer is 'NO'. But, all speculation is welcomed.</p>
<p>Have you considered applying as a BSE candidate? Then they specifically ask for Math/Science test scores, and not (unless you want to) history or English scores. It looks like you would be a really strong candidate (if your scores are accompanied by very strong grades and ECs or original scientific research) for the BSE program, so you might want to consider that. Hope this helped!</p>
<p>Thanks for your response. I will definitely be applying as a BSE applicant but unfortunately I can't support your speculation that I'd be a strong applicant.. My GPA, AP scores, and especially my EC's are well below any ivy's standards. I've been under the impression that the fact that I'm a middle class applicant applying without the need for financial aid will help, but other than that there is no reason to think that I'm not an extreme reach. </p>
<p>Still though, is it true that even if I apply as a BSE applicant then I'll get by claiming that Math I, Math II, and Chemistry encompass three 'subjects'? That's my main concern as I have less than three days to sign up for my SAT II's.</p>
<p>What does this : "Subject Tests should be in three different subjects" mean?
If any one wants to shed some light on the subject?</p>
<p>I feel moronic for even asking this question. Like someone I recently talked to said : if you can't decipher the school's admissions requirements then you probably shouldn't be applying there.. </p>
<p>Really though, I guess I'd rather embarrass myself in front of an entire forum rather than send a simple question to the admissions. Jeez.. I sure am approaching this situation with some logic.</p>
<p>It was by asking the admissions office that I discovered they did indeed insist on having two teacher recommendations from different departments.</p>
<p>I don't think you'll impress Princeton by taking Math I and Math II. It looks lame. If you can't break 700 in three subjects you are likely not Princeton material.</p>
<p>I mean, 700's aren't impressive by any Princeton standards. if you apply with a string of 700's and a handful of lower scores and are mediocre otherwise...why not save the $60 or whatever the fee is?</p>
<p>IF however there is something else about you that you think is compelling or are willing to work very hard in the next few months [you have 2 more opportunities for SAT and SAT2 -- Dec 1st and Jan 26th], and if your GPA isn't below 3.7 [I've never heard of anyone getting in with anything lower than this, unless there were VERY compelling circumstances], then that's a different story. </p>
<p>but again, 700's aren't anything to rely on, unless you get 700's [or higher -- higher being the key] on absolutely everything. </p>
<p>another thing -- engineers who get accepted tend to have VERY high math and science scores across the board [AP, SAT and SAT2]. they're the only ones who are sort of allowed to be unbalanced.</p>