<p>I say yes.</p>
<p>explain how...</p>
<p>Its an american test for american schools, if anything, I would say a white, urban bias...for instance there was a question about what fruit wasn't normally at a brakfast table...a choice was pineapple...the Hawaiins disagreed...</p>
<p>I would disagree with that too, there are a lot of pineapple juices people drink for breakfast...I don't, but still many do</p>
<p>Right, that was the point, SAT said pineapple was not a normal breakfast item...they are also supposed to change some of the reading passages so they are not all about white men, as was the history.</p>
<p>As well, they are changing the math so that it will be more evenly distributed between questions females do better on and questions males do better on, there are questions that on average one gender does better on, and before it was weighted in the male direction. So now there will be more of a balance...so guess what, more tough word problems...and before anyone yells at me, I said average...</p>
<p>New South Korean Immigrants I've talked to found difficult: Specifically Critical Reading (Absolutely Loathed), and Cohesive Writing (New SAT). What they found easy? I'm not surprised: SAT Math. Not just easy, but an 800 must for them. Now with the New SAT in place, it's more about how one does plain well in Math rather than have any sort of logic. A sort of blow to foreign students' chances to shine. And then there's more CR and Writing, need I say more?</p>
<p>Basically, I'd like to see how college admissions take this New SAT from foreigners.</p>
<p>All New SAT test questions are reviewed by committees made up of many individuals drawn from different parts of the country. These reviews help identify and eliminate any wording or content that migh be offensive or inappropriate for particular groups of students, such as partcular racial or ethnic groups or genders. This committee ensures that the test as a whole includes references to men and women and individuals from varied racial, ethnic, and cultural backgrounds. Ever notice how on every test administration, at least one critical reading passage is about the experience of a minority group?</p>
<p>I've read in some articles that it is much easier for immigrants whose first language isn't English to prep for the analogies section, which were eliminated--the new essay section will certainly be a great disadvantage to them. The predicted result of the New SAT is that because of the essay section, the gender gap in scores is likely to narrow though.</p>
<p>Racist against foreign students...</p>
<p>against which foreign students?</p>
<p>American test is for American students. Foreign students should take the TOEFL.</p>
<p>Some l337 schools require the SAT from foreign students. In other words: screwed.</p>
<p>Well if you plan on going to an American university, shouldn't you know english well enough to be able to succeed on the SAT?</p>
<p>yes, but come on lets be realistic. How much of the knowledge you have from sat verbal are you really going to use. Sure I agree the person has to be able to speak decent english but are you really going to use those 50 dollar sat words every day? Thats why they have a useful book called the thesaurus. And as for the critical reading, I believe that most of it is complete bs. You're never going to have to dig so deep into a passage as you have to on sat crit reading passages. Plus, your most likely going to be reading stuff that you actually like to read.</p>
<p>Hey all,</p>
<pre><code> I am Chinese. I must say that the SAT is biased and unfortunately it is my little bro's turn to take it. For what I know, he is taking a prep course from Prepme and by his reaction, he seems to enjoy it and taking it in strides. I guess the prep course works well for him. Whether or not the SAT is discriminatory, the bottom line doesn't change-- everybody has to take it and do well on it to have a shot for the ivy. So my advice is to strap yourself down and find ways that work for you and ace the SAT.
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<p>i doubt it is discriminatory. if you dont want to take the SAT dont take it. no one said u have to go to school in the US. the SAT is meant to test americans for american universities as everyone has said. </p>
<p>citygirlsmom....most hawaiians dont eat pineapple for breakfast either....</p>
<p>re: pineapple, the point was it was not a fruit that was foriegn to their breakfast table, the point is cultural differences will make a difference on some questions....once I took an iq test, my mother was teacher, and one question was: what is the purpose of the prison system? choices: to punish people, to rehabilitate people, to keep people out of society. What would your answer be? I will tell you later what the test answer was.</p>
<p>First of all, I said that the SAT is biased, not discriminatory, big difference. Please read carefully before reply. Second, I am an american citizen, same as you. If I don't attend school here, care to tell me where else to attend school? Besides, US has the best colleges in the world, why go else where? Bottom line, SAT as such leaves students with very little choice. Want does not apply. It is the same as wanting to do homework or not, wanting to go to work or not. Even though the choice is yours, you have very little alternative, and more importantly, choosing to do otherwise will certainly have adverse consequences. Not doing homeworking would result in bad grades which would lead to all kinds of problems such as conflict with parents, not graduating from high school, or attending bad college. I do not have to state what would happen if you choose not to go to work. Please reply with more responsible opinions next time. Sigh, afterall, you are only a city girl's mom.</p>
<p>I believe that the SAT (and many other "standardized" test) are biased. Racists implies that it is intentional, which it isn't...too harsh. But the SAT is most definetly bias, but not to just International students, but also all student who aren't used to the middle class white America's lifestyle.Classic "cup is to saucer" example.</p>
<p>Yes, the test is biased. All tests are. It is impossible to make a completely fair test. But college admissions officers have seen enough stats to KNOW what the biases are, and they can take them into account in decisions.</p>
<p>Also, the SAT is a test made for American students applying to American schools, as people have said. It is not obligated to change itself to be more fair to other groups. Rather, schools are obligated to decide whether using the SAT for those other groups is fair.</p>
<p>I think British students, whose culture is English-originated, will find the SAT difficult too.</p>
<p>come on! the culture isn't that heavy... in fact i haven't even noticed anything about it... for gods sake people, all the answers are in the PASSAGE for reading comprehension, and hte vocab... well u just have to know those.</p>
<p>Yes, SAT is against any international student, even English speaking. The math part is awful, I think it should be like Math IIc with more time. Now it absolutely doesn't reflect intellect or knowledge.</p>
<p>Verbal part is BS. the people with ideal english can score 500, and with weak - 650. I can't even imagine who invented that analogy, crit. reading.. they don't check knowledge, and if even chaeck, then useless knowledge.</p>
<p>SAT is just another indicator of the crisis in American education system. Reforms needed!</p>