SAT Scores

<p>Hello everyone. I have recently received my SAT scores from the first SAT I took in March. I am just curious if these scores are competitive enough. I do plan on taking them again in May and probably fall of senior year because I need to raise my math and writing scores. (I know USNA does not look at writing)</p>

<p>Math: 700
Reading: 700
Writing: 610</p>

<p>Any feedback is appreciated. :)</p>

<p>Thank you,
Ectriso</p>

<p>To be frank, no, a 1400 composite is not competitive. I suggest you retake until you get at least a 1500 comp, preferably with an 800 in math.</p>

<p>Wow, that’s the first negative feedback I received on a 1400 composite. Thanks for your response but I am a little skeptical at your advice. Of course an 800 would be preferred on all sections, but I have not seen an abundance of applicants that received the BFE with a math score of 800. I actually haven’t seen a ton with 1500 composite. Just out of curiosity, are you a BGO, parent, etc?</p>

<p>Thank you for being honest though.</p>

<p>thats incorrect. my friend received a Letter of Assurance and got a 680 verbal and 710 math… so that is incorrect. Those scores are phenomenal and are more than enough.</p>

<p>Martin is correct but always try to improve them. Take a look at the USNA class profile. This is the best indicator as where you would be competitive. Again, excellent scores!</p>

<p>I’m a junior in HS. My BGO and Congressman told me that in order to be competitive for my district and for many others (I’m in CA-1) I would need at least a 1450, but a 1500+ would be ideal. Of course an 800 is difficult to achieve, but there is a very strong math focus at Navy and the middle 50% of SAT math scores for midshipmen is 650-690. 700 is very close to this range so I feel it would be in your best interest to take it again. You of course do not need to heed my advice, but as there really isn’t much of a downside to taking it again, I suggest you go for an increased score. Good luck :)</p>

<p>I am going to say you need a 750 or higher in math to make you stand out. Someone has to bring up the average SAT scores for the Navy academy and with a quarter of the class coming from NAPS with less than a 600 on their SAT scores, it has to be the top half of the class doing it.</p>

<p>BTW this only depends on where you live, what is the color of your skin, and if Navy wants you to play a sport for them. Then you can have any math SAT and still get a seat. I seen as low as a 370 math SAT.</p>

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This is definitely true.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/naval-academy-annapolis/1079590-best-brightest.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/naval-academy-annapolis/1079590-best-brightest.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You can also check here for some factual information about the most recent class profile…<a href=“http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/USNA%202014%20Class%20Portrait.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/USNA%202014%20Class%20Portrait.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Does being female give you an advantage over being male?</p>

<p>cga
No it does not lend you an advantage, in fact I would hazard to guess that it would put you at a disadvantage as a fair amount of sexism still exists in the military.</p>

<p>What are the average number of women appointed and the average number of applicants per yr? Same question for males? That may answer some of the question?</p>

<p>cga82</p>

<p>I don’t think women have the advantage. Two things I noticed was that females where appointed at a lower precentage than males(atleast in several years) of the total that apply and that fewer of the women actually recieved an official candidated number to finish the application. I can not access this information but it was posted by a news paper this year. </p>

<p>I don’t doubt women score slightly lower on average on the math SAT at the Naval Academy because they tend to score lower on average nationally. Women do better on critical reasoning and writing. I say females natural intellectual abilities are over looked by the academy because the math SAT counts more than critical reasoning.</p>

<p>momof3ggs,</p>

<p>I don’t have the break down either but your comment of “total that apply and that fewer of the women actually recieved an official candidated number to finish the application” may be correct indicating that fewer women completed the application meaning that the females who did complete had better chances to gain appointments than men. </p>

<p>My post in #12 to make the comparison(#appointments/#applicants; for females & males) would be needed and all else is speculation. I would think that each academy has a target number of women to be admitted each year but I don’t know that for a fact.</p>

<p>CGA</p>

<p>I don’t know why females get less candidate numbers. The Naval Academy is not forthcoming with that information. For the most part people that apply are self selecting. I can not imagine why females would think they have what it takes to open an application and not bother to get a candidate number and finish the application. Something is a little fishy, if you ask me. </p>

<p>I will concede a bigger percentage of females will get appointed that get a candidate number but why do they not get assigned a candidate number in the first place? Why did they either stop or get weeded out? </p>

<p>Bottom line less get appointed of the total that started the application. Besides females only make up about 20% of the brigade yet females make up more of the population.</p>

<p>Some of your questions can be answered with the mission of the Navy and Marine Corp. What are the %'s of women in their respective services?</p>

<p>I don’t think it’s fishy-USNA manages to take the best for each geographic area that it can. Many times there are vast amount of great candidates and other times not as many. Sometimes Congressman have more than 1 slot open and sometimes just 1 opening. Too many factors to be considered. </p>

<p>I know that when I applied, I wanted to attend a SA no matter what. If I had to apply 2,3 times I would. I would have enlisted since they never seem to be able to fill expectations from the fleet-although this may be a risk but I wanted to serve-period. I strongly believe that if one wants to attend a SA and has great credentials with no show stoppers that the odds are on your side.</p>

<p>Originally, I think that a 700M/700V is a great score and would be looked at very favorably but that’s my opinion and only my opinion.</p>

<p>I agree that a 700m/700v should be good enough but the reality is that a male with that math score is not going to stand out in many regions. I think it is a disservice to keep telling these kids that it is good enough for some regions. There is no saying what it will take in any given year. You could have a 750 math SAT but the next guy has a 650 math SAT and Navy wants him for the wrestling team. Everyone else in the national pool has a 720 and above math SAT and you have a 750 math SAT, but they have a higher whole candidate score because they did xyz more than you did. </p>

<p>Also, why does geographic area have anything to do with getting a candidate number. The Naval Academy should not stop people from getting a candidate number if they meet the criteria. Should not matter one bit how many they give to even people from the exact same high school. The nominations will geograhically limited the number allowed to compete for an appointment. You can not compete for a nomination without an official application. Well atleast that is the case in my state. Why do they even grant a candidate number to someone with 370 SAT score? When other times a 580 SAT is not good enough. </p>

<p>I realize about 20% of the navy is women and that the female officers should be at a rate no higher than what females represented in the navy. But that 20% is competed for by 100% of the female population. Also more females go to college than males.</p>

<p>Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said that those scores are “GOOD ENOUGH”. I said excellent scores, looks favorably but I also said try to improve. </p>

<p>Look it’s like a race, a 4:10 mile run is excellent but the guy next to you just got a 4:05. This is what is said earlier -some yrs there are many candidates that have very high scores compared to the previous yr. Just like the race -that 4:10 may beat just about everyone-but there may be someone with a better time.</p>

<p>Yes the whole candidate is very important never said it wasn’t. Again, it’s just like the 1 mile race will the 4:10 be good enough to win? </p>

<p>Sorry, geographic area-congressmen-laws-…Don’t know how candidate #'s are distributed. Never heard of limiting candidate #'s to anyone who meet the criterea- some high schools have more than 1 getting appointments.</p>

<p>Good Luck</p>

<p>Ectriso your SAT scores are competive to get a candidate number. What I am not sure about is that it will be enough in your district to garner a nomination and the ability to compete for an appointment. I am telling you that you will never know unless you apply and give it your all. I just don’t want you to not have a plan B all lined up that gives you a great option should the Naval Academy not select you. To get merit aid from the better schools you going to need an higher SAT score. The higher your SATs the better chance for other scholarships. I have seen to many young people put all their effort in getting a SA appointment or ROTC scholarship and not think about the other options. I seen to many of them get burned. </p>

<p>There are many other ways to get a free education and not owe anything back.</p>

<p>700M/700V is very competitive, but you have to remember that the admissions board looks at EVERYTHING…including your essay and recommendations. They want to know you’re in for the long haul and are ready to serve, too.</p>