<p>I know that the SAT is by no means a super indicator of success in college</p>
<p>Recently I looked at the stats of the incoming class to the college that I will be attending. I am literally in the 50% of SAT scores.</p>
<p>Would this mean I am average to everyone, pretty much? Also, what would it mean if I think I now would have significantly higher SAT score? Does this change anything?</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Are you already in the college? If so then don't ever worry about your SATs again, they mean nothing to you anymore. Good study habits and average SAT scores will beat out bad study habits and great SAT scores almost every time.</p>
<p>it doesn't matter at all.</p>
<p>Yea.. no correlation at all really.. I got like a 1900 my senior year, which is crap to me.. if you are a hardworker though don't even worry about SAT's, you can get great grades.</p>
<p>Statistically, there's something called "Restriction in Range". At an Ivy, where nearly everyone gets high SATs the correlation is nil. If, however, you look at a state school with a wide distribution of SAT scores, you'll see a strong correlation between SAT score and success in the first year. That's how it was validated, I believe.</p>
<p>I'm going to attend Middlebury, if that add to anything.</p>
<p>I got like 2070, but I think if I took it today I'd get like 2200+ (I've been reading A LOT)</p>
<p>No correlation.</p>
<p>success in college is dependent on far too many variables (teachers, difficulty of curriculum, work ethic) with intelligence a lot of times playing second fiddle . SAT and Intelligence may be something that's more linkable, but success is too broad.</p>
<p>I'm not saying that the SAT or ACT are "great" predictors of college success but if there were no correlation they'd never be used. These test have to possess both reliability and validity. Reliability is the dgree to which one would score similarly over repeated administrations. Validity is the degree to which a given score predicts some other measured variable. That's just basic assessment 101.</p>
<p>When there's a restriction in range, as mentioned above, that correlation is likely nil but when you look at the entire range of possible scores you have a very different story.</p>
<p>The best predictor of college success is the SAT II in composition</p>
<p>Once you start taking classes in college, no one will care about what score you got on the SAT. No one will care about anything else you did in high school either. No college class has a prerequisite stating "must receive a XXX on SAT_______". The key to collegiate success is hard work and hard work only. If you rest upon the things you did in high school when you're in college, you are not going to do well. For example, the writing portion of the SAT includes an essay that must be written in 20 minutes, right? Well if you take only 20 minutes to write an essay for English class in college, you're not going to get any higher than a "D" on the paper.</p>
<p>Anybody who says there's no correlation doesn't know what they're talking about. There's certainly a correlation.</p>
<p>That said, it's not a rule. Doing good on SATs doesn't mean you WILL do good in college, and doing poorly on them doesn't mean you WON'T do good in college.</p>
<p>Care to elaborate? And provide reliable evidence for your claim(s)?</p>
<p>who cares???...honestly, there is nothing worse than someone in college who brags about there SAT score</p>
<p>No.</p>
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Anybody who says there's no correlation doesn't know what they're talking about. There's certainly a correlation.</p>
<p>That said, it's not a rule. Doing good on SATs doesn't mean you WILL do good in college, and doing poorly on them doesn't mean you WON'T do good in college.
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<p>I know idiots that scored really high on the SAT's.. you know what, they weren't that successful in college. </p>
<p>I mean really, suppose I got a 1500 then I decided to work really really hard and got a 4.0 in college... that certainly is possible, and disproves that there is a correlation.</p>
<p>College is all about working hard, making the best use of time, and perfecting your study habits.. SAT's are more of a glorified IQ test, they are more of an indicator of how well you can take tests. I highly doubt that they are an indicator of how hard someone is willing to work in college, or how well they can manage their time.</p>
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Nope. I would ask my opposition to do the same, however. I don't see any evidence showing there's no correlation.</p>
<p>Also, Indian, that's why I added the second part (that it's certainly not going to hold true 100% of the time). But common sense and anecdotal experience have shown me that more often than not, someone who does very well in college also did very well on the SAT.</p>
<p>If everyone who scored, let's say, 2200-2400 consistently received 3.8-4.0 GPAs...then yes, there would be a valid correlation. I believe it's safe to state that what the SAT tests has almost nothing to do with what is taught in college, which explains the statistically insignificant correlation. Or, if someone who scored in the 1500-1600 range was doomed to swimming with the fishes (C grade point average, or lower). That too, is not the case.</p>
<p>"I don't see any evidence showing there's no correlation."</p>
<p>Yes allow us to prove a negative for you. The burden of proof is on whoever is making a claim that something DOES effect something else, not the other way around.</p>
<p>But the person below you obliged you anyway, so its all good, I guess.</p>