<p>All of the schools that I'm considering applying to as a junior transfer recommend SAT2s. Note that they recommend, but don't require them. Would not taking them be absolutely detrimental to my application? If it's that important, than I'll just take them, but if my application wouldn't suffer without them, then it definately wouldn't be worth it to me. </p>
<p>Brown, in particular, says that you have to get a waiver if you aren't submitting them and warns that it could potentially detroy your chances of admission.</p>
<p>You just know its almost imperative that you take them when they put "We STRONGLY recomend that you take the math 2c SAT subject test as well as any other subject test of your choosing"</p>
<p>you should DEFINITELY take them. And if your sat 1 score wasn't stellar, take the new sat 1 as well. Yes, it's not going to be easy to study for these. but i'm doing it--- so you definitely can.</p>
<p>are you sure that colleges don't judge SAT's taken by sophomores in college differently than high school students? I mean they are meant to be taken by high school students, right? (please tell me i'm wrong i want to take them again, just feel it might be a little silly)</p>
<p>It depends on the school to which you are applying, but I do not think SAT IIs matter. I applied as a junior transfer to Chicago and Rice, earned abysmally low SAT II scores back in high school, and was still admitted.</p>
<p>There are only so many things the SAT I and SAT II can do, and predicting junior-year performance at any top school is not one of the them.</p>
<p>hey thanks everybody for the help. nspeds, you know where i'm applying -- swarthmore, brown, vassar, amherst (your idea!), some others...</p>
<p>caa and nspeds have mixed feelings on the question, though, so i'm still not sure what to do. basically, i don't want any holes in my application that i can fill. I'm just trying to determine if it's worth all of the effort.</p>
<p>i'll be calling the schools tomorrow but i'm afraid they'll just recycle the "we recommend but don't require" line.</p>
<p>yes it is worth the effort...honestly, you may be able to get in without SAT II or SAT scores, but having good scores on them only ADDS to your application and makes you stronger.</p>
<p>donpon, I still strongly urge you to apply to Rice: LAC-like school (2800 undergrads) with university resources. The department is good, and the school is a match given your stats. Rice does not require SAT IIs, and they even accept spring transfers.</p>
<p>Although Rice is located in Uncle Sam's armpit (Houston, trust me, I live here) It's very hot, but I hear Rice is quite affordable and definitely awesome academics. I might even apply there too...but I've already got way too many schools.</p>
<p>I am from Canada, My SAT IIs are not great, include 1 in low 600, but i finished my first year at University of Toronto w/ 3.7, should i bother myself w/ SAT II again?</p>
<p>lmao nspeds always so serious...but seriously i don't care where you say rice is located, unless you've had to live in houston for the past 18 years, you don't know. It is SOOOOOOO hot in the summer, and Rice is no exception. Another reason I am fleeing Texas.</p>
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<p>...and for some reason, you assume that I have not...</p>
<p>I was born in Houston, and lived there most of my life.</p>
<p>Also, it might be hot in the summer... but usually one is not attending college then.</p>
<p>For the original poster,
If you have a significant amount of college level coursework under your belt (which would be natural of a junior transfer applicant) I don't think the SAT IIs will "add" anything to your application, because odds are you have probably already taken (or been exposed) to the same material on the SAT II subject tests, but in an actual college course and environment. </p>
<p>I honestly wouldn't bother if it was "strongly recommended" but not actually required. </p>
<p>-- Hell, I didn't bother when I applied. And I am transferring to Stanford next fall....</p>
<p>yes jacobian but you failed to tell him you are the "perfect" applicant...honestly you didn't need SAT IIs from what you told me. And he might be just as strong of an applicant, but if not, the SAT IIs can help.</p>
<p>well i called swarthmore today, spoke to a transfer admissions rep, and she told me that, while not DISCOURAGING me from taking them, as a junior applicant the tests really wouldn't have much of an effect on my chances</p>
<p>brand- took the works right outa my mouth..</p>
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- 3.87 college gpa
- 6 scientific publications
- patent pending
- research presented at a national and international conference
- international volunteer work
- recieved a $30,000 grant from FEMA for a volunteer organization I helped found
- started a neutriceuticals business**</p>
<p>The college will imediately toss your high school record into the trash when they see achievements like THESE. Many people havn't been as productive though. So they kinda need to make up for that by making other areas as strong as possible.</p>