Schindler's List.

<p>because everyone else is posting random threads, hahaha.</p>

<p>okay, this is my favorite movie. who else has seen it?</p>

<p>kiki, did you end up watching it? what did you think?</p>

<p>I want to watch it.</p>

<p>yes, you should. it is soooo good. i watched it like five times this week because i had to write a paper on it for my films class. now i love it even more.</p>

<p>i love that movie!! but as far as genocide movies go i like hotel rwanda better.</p>

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<p>:P</p>

<p>Sometime in April is 108949829524x better than Hotel Rwanda.</p>

<p>I like the red coat thing in Schind's...that's about it, andrea.</p>

<p>I know the b&w thing is symbolic and done "in good taste" but it left me in this annoyingly curious state.</p>

<p>i like hotel rwanda too.</p>

<p>yeah i like both.
but shindler's list is much more monumental than hotel rwanda...
i don't think the atrocities in africa come close to that of the holocaust. the holocaust arose from much purer unadulterated hatred...</p>

<p>schindler's list is simply a great movie. the way he talks, while making friends with nazi ss officers is not something an ordinary person can do. Oscar Schindler's also not the only person worth making a film of, there are countless other nameless people who made sacrifices to help save other people's lives. There was this Chinese customs diplomat at the Chinese embassy in Munich, and he secretly approved over 2000 visas for German Jews to take refuge in shanghai, china while the embassies of all other major powers refused to take this risk.</p>

<p>Great movie, but how on earth can you watch it repeatedly?</p>

<p>can anyone sum the movie up into 3 sentences?</p>

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i don't think the atrocities in africa come close to that of the holocaust. the holocaust arose from much purer unadulterated hatred...

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aww but people died :( why do you have to compare the gravity of two horrible genocides lol... that's horrible lol</p>

<p>the only movie i can watch over and over is the hebrew hammer :D (and sublime: stories, tales, lies, and exaggerations.. but that's not really a movie)</p>

<p>can anyone sum the movie up into 3 sentences?</p>

<p>Oscar Schindler, an industrialist saves 1100 Jews from death during the Nazi Holocaust by employing them in his factory in Krakow, whilst an avid member of the Nazi party.</p>

<p>"schindler's list is simply a great movie. the way he talks, while making friends with nazi ss officers is not something an ordinary person can do."</p>

<p>He was a cold blooded business man throughout his entire life, capitalized on a business opportunity employing jews in return for their lives and through all this grew fond of all life and humanity, giving up all he had to fulfill his purpose of saving innocent polish jews' lives.</p>

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Great movie, but how on earth can you watch it repeatedly?

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<p>you mean because it is sad? yeah, it's sad, but it is such a goooooooood movie.</p>

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Oscar Schindler, an industrialist saves 1100 Jews from death during the Nazi Holocaust by employing them in his factory in Krakow, whilst an avid member of the Nazi party.

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<p>i wouldn't say he was an "avid" nazi. he joined the party in order to make good business contacts.</p>

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He was a cold blooded business man throughout his entire life, capitalized on a business opportunity employing jews in return for their lives and through all this grew fond of all life and humanity, giving up all he had to fulfill his purpose of saving innocent polish jews' lives.

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<p>in my opinion, he wasn't "cold-blooded"...he just basically liked to party and be with a lot of women and make a lot of money. also, i am sure he did not employ jews thinking "i am going to save their lives!". he employed them because their wages were less than what he would have to pay poles. </p>

<p>this is why the girl in the red coat was so important. after he sees her, he basically wakes up, and takes action. he is saying to stern that he is going to take all his money and go home and be rich for the rest of his life, and that he is going to try to put in a good word for stern at auschwitz. but then he sees the girl, and he does some thinking, and he changes his mind. in the scene right after that, when he is with his girlfriend, he gets out all his briefcases of money and then goes to bribe goeth.</p>

<p>oh, speaking of goeth, ralph fiennes totally should have won the oscar for this film. he is soooo good. i think it's hilarious how fat he is, hahaha. every one of the three main characters (Liam Neeson, Ralph, Fiennes, Ben Kingsley) all did sooo good in this film.</p>

<p>if you have seen the movie - what is your favorite parts?</p>

<p>mine is the "southern russia" part, hahahaha. and when they are making the list - "more, more!" and the "pardon" scenes.</p>

<p>haha, so basically the entire movie is my favorite part.</p>

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aww but people died why do you have to compare the gravity of two horrible genocides lol... that's horrible lol

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<p>i know, don't get me wrong, they are both terrible. and i just looked up a list of african conflicts/wars and there are like 4 or 5 for each African country...
that's a lot of war.</p>

<p><a href="http://journeyeast.tripod.com/angel_of_austria_s_jews.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://journeyeast.tripod.com/angel_of_austria_s_jews.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I just googled the Chinese embassy guy, and this article on Ho Fengshan came up. It's really inspiring. thanks for the info!!</p>

<p>thanks, UriA702.</p>

<p>"i wouldn't say he was an "avid" nazi. he joined the party in order to make good business contacts."</p>

<p>he supported the nazi party while completely aware of their mass murders - an avid nazi in my book.</p>

<p>"in my opinion, he wasn't "cold-blooded"...he just basically liked to party and be with a lot of women and make a lot of money. also, i am sure he did not employ jews thinking "i am going to save their lives!". he employed them because their wages were less than what he would have to pay poles.
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<p>"also, i am sure he did not employ jews thinking "i am going to save their lives!"." </p>

<p>Obviously that was not the case. However he did keep them employed to save their lives, even throughout losing his fortune and every cent he made in his life to keep those 1100 people alive and provide whatever he can for them. This wasn't his original plan but this quickly became the case.</p>

<p>Either way, a great human being, a real life hero, and as significantly important to the history of the Nazi holocaust as Anne Frank (another book everyone should read repeatedly throughout their lives.)</p>

<p>It is true that these films and books are difficult to sit through and read or watch but they are extremely touching and remind us of the struggles many in the world have been through and how we lucky we are to live in the world we live in today.</p>

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<p>yes, he was a member of the nazi party, but in my mind, an "avid" nazi is more like amon goeth. schindler did not mistreat any jews. an avid nazi would kill as many as he possibly could. imo, schindler did not "support" the nazi party. he joined it in order to make money, period. later he became more aware of what they were doing, but he couldn't just quit the party.</p>

<p>he definitely would not have been able to save those jews if he had not been a nazi and had friends in high places. if he wasn't friends with amon goeth, he (goeth) never would have accepted those bribes. and there's a scene where he (schindler) is trying to get the women out of auschwitz...the guy said he could have schindler arrested, but he didn't because schindler had so many important friends.</p>