<p>In Businessweek rankings. Top 30 now. Hope to hit the Top 20 soon. That would be about right for now. Have to give those recruiters a better free lunch and free hotel/parking in the Pyle Center. Half kidding.</p>
<p>Best</a> Undergraduate Business Schools 2011 - Businessweek</p>
<p>The difference between the student ratings and the recruiter ratings is pretty amazing (not just for Wisconsin but for most schools). I understand why that is, but it’s still interesting to see.</p>
<p>The relatively random and wide distribution does call them into question. Also recruiters can range from pro HR people to business people doing double duty are recruiters. But higher is always better so…good job. I also think it is pretty easy to encourage students to game the system.</p>
<p>UW’s business school is rated 27th and the medium salary is 50K. How much do plumbers make in the mid-west?? Anyone know Joe the plumber?? I feel bad for my Son. He is going to end up in a school that isn’t as good as his farther’s, pay 10 times the tuition and make far less. I guess its better to be poor and attend an ivy league school for free.</p>
<p>It is $50K to start with good benefits at most firms. I think 95% of college grad would find that attractive enough today. With construction down many plumbers are hurting. And there job can be very unpleasant. It’s not all nice new construction. Sometimes you are on you back with gnarly critters in a dank crawlspace. No thanks. And they make about $50K with experience.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www1.salary.com/Plumber-II-salary.html[/url]”>http://www1.salary.com/Plumber-II-salary.html</a></p>
<p>You tell em’ barrons!</p>
<p>More interesting than the 50k median is the tiny range–no one in the entire b-school accepted an offer over 70k last year ([Wisconsin</a> School of Business Career Center - BuckyNet Overview](<a href=“http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/student/salary/salary/accepts/]Wisconsin”>http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/student/salary/salary/accepts/)).</p>
<p>Above average pay coming out of college is great, but you’re dreaming if you think we have the same opportunities as top 10-20. B-school kids never get major consulting firm offers. Big 4 is as good as it gets prestige-wise.</p>
<p>Maybe they don’t want to be slaves to big consulting working 24/7 and never being home. For an extra $10K? McKinsey used to come but they had little interest and lost people to less demanding jobs in the midwest. Not everyone wants to be a total corporate slave. Also the complete report shows a number with highs over $70,000 up to $90,000.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/common/yir/YIR_09_10_Web.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/common/yir/YIR_09_10_Web.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ivy league schools work in you are interested in attending college in the northeast and want to be with students mainly from that region. Nothing wrong with preferring to be in the midwest and this culture. The caliber of all Ivy students is not stellar- Bush is an example. I believe justwaiting1 is from the east coast- your son may learn more than your H just by leaving the area. The disadvantage could be in returning to the horrible prestige driven competition of the northeast with less known credentials.</p>
<p>Here’s an article on the topic that discusses the issue with a bit of humor. </p>
<p>[Why</a> life is still good for business school students ? in Wisconsin. - By Daniel Gross - Slate Magazine](<a href=“http://www.slate.com/id/2217350/]Why”>Why life is still good for business school students … in Wisconsin.)</p>
<p>The reason most people major in business is to make money. Make money then you can help the poor.</p>
<p>My view is simple. I want my kids to go a good undergraduate school get very high grades then come home to the east coast and get an ivy league joint law and MBA. If the undergraduate degree was important then I would pay the 50K for my kids to go to private schools.</p>
<p>I think that is incorrect. Most want to make money doing something somewhat interesting and meaningful. Being JUST about making money is too much in the NYC way of thinking that I find distasteful and often corrupt. Just look at what brought on our last few recessions and every time it goes right back to Wall Street and insane levels of greed and corruption.</p>
<p>Speaking of the purpose of getting into a good school and studying for a practical profession and the importance of money in our lives, I wish to make the following comment: </p>
<p>Out of necessity for survival, human being has been “greedy” since the beginning of time. Granted that most of us are not worrying about putting food on the table and having a roof over our heads, for some of us, money becomes just a number. For example, for most folks, at AGI of over $70-100K, more money is just a number. For folks like John Paulson (AGI over $5 billion last year), I don’t think any more money will help or hurt him either way. To Bill Gates and Warren Buffett of the world, money is just a numbering game. What they care about is how to give away their money and how fast (or how effective) they can do it.</p>
<p>On the other end of social economic scale, there are plenty of people living paycheck by paycheck. The motivation for them may be different. To these people, money is not merely just a number. It is a matter of life and death.</p>
<p>For people like myself, starting out with only $200 in my name over 20 years ago as a poor graduate student, although I have considered made it to the middle class, I still remember the days when every penny count. Getting into a good school and study for a profession that bring home the bread is still very important. I hope my kids know what I am talking about.</p>
<p>Are there five schools in the whole state of Wisconsin that are better than UW? There exist many states that are half the size with a better depth of high level education. I guess this is why it is hard to get into UW.</p>
<p>No, by most real measures there are not 25 other schools in the entire world that are clearly superior to the UW. UW produces more new knowledge, inventions and highly successful graduates than most schools in the US. Many faculty are among the best in their fields and they continue to win important awards throughout their careers. UW is in the Top 5 in total research grants won in the entire US which means it is in the Top 5 in the world. </p>
<p>So what’s your point? Neither NY or NJ or any eastern state has a public that competes with UW from A to Z. Their only depth is in the private sector. Most top privates are concentrated in a few smaller states because that’s where the US started developing. If the US had developed west to east there would only be 5,000,000 people in NY and 1,000,000 in NJ.</p>
<p>UW is a great school. I will attend. Hopefully get into the B- Program.</p>