<p>IUB-Kelley or Wisc-Madison: Which do you think is a better school for business? Which has better recruiting opportunties, etc?</p>
<p>Indiana....</p>
<p>They are about the same in terms of opportunities. I would base my decision more in terms of where you want to live.</p>
<p>Indiana is better for business, but Wisconsin still has a great business program. Plus, Wisconsin has ALOT more overall prestige.</p>
<p>go with Wisc</p>
<p>Who cares about overall prestige, its all about the b-school.</p>
<p>Does Indiana accept incoming freshman into its business program? Wisconsin does not; you apply after three semesters, and it's extremely competitive.</p>
<p>I believe UW's website indicates a 3.5 GPA as an average for B-school admits, but the local sidelines chatter says it's higher than that. If you're not accepted, your choices are to: transfer schools to a less demanding program, or choose a "work-around" major, such as econ or agribusiness. You are limited as to the number of times you may apply (2? -- it's on the website).</p>
<p>S elected not to go to UW, largely for that reason. He will attend an equally good program that he was accepted into as a freshman.</p>
<p>Yes, Indiana admits highly qualified students into the b-school. They're known as direct-admits. You can't go wrong with KSB. I'd say go to IU for business.</p>
<p>Which one do you think has a better funnel into lucrative business jobs, such as ibanking, etc.</p>
<p>Indiana....</p>
<p>Indiana.</p>
<p>BusinessWeek: IU#10, U-Wisc#27
<a href="http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/%5B/url%5D">http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/</a></p>
<p>USNews: IU#11, U-Wisc#12 (Tied with Cornell, Purdue, U of Illinois, U of Minn, WUSTL)
<a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/premium/business/topprogs.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/premium/business/topprogs.php</a></p>
<p>Take a look at IU's Career Services page to see who's on campus (although they haven't booked up yet given that its only July):
<a href="http://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/index.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/index.cfm</a></p>
<p>And these are the stats you need to be a direct admit:
<a href="http://www.kelley.iu.edu/ugrad/admission/requirements.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.kelley.iu.edu/ugrad/admission/requirements.cfm</a></p>
<p>I'm wating for A2Wolves to find this thread.</p>
<p>For overall academics, Wisconsin is a better school, but as this is a specific thread, I highly recommend checking out both business schools, calling advisors, etc. Wisconsin ties with Harvard in producing the top number of fortune 500 ceos, has specific internship programs (as im sure Indiana does) like Wisconsin to Wall Street and most kids take advantage. Grainger is a beautiful building to study and let's not forget that Madison is an incredible town. You need to fit in with the atmosphere of the school and Bloomington might not fit as well as Madison.</p>
<p>One other advantage Madison has is that you can combine various programs/majors/certificates so you can have a specialization. For example, I know several business majors who also picked up a regional studies ceritificate (like a minor) or second major and for which Wisconsin has over 70 different academic departments in the top 10 nationally, so it might fit bitter.</p>
<p>Wisconsin costs more, though.</p>
<p>Wisconsin and its not close.</p>
<p>If you are even asking, rejection from UW's business school should not be an issue. You will get it done and get in.</p>
<p>the fact that wisconsin didn't offer a direct admit program to the business school is one of the top reasons i didn't go after being admitted to Uwisc.</p>
<p>smurphy, </p>
<p>"If you are even asking, rejection...should not be an issue." What's your reasoning? I don't understand how posing the question would minimize rejection chances.</p>
<p>As I posted earlier, S took the same route as Cheapseats. Don't know Cheapseats, but S had a solid HS record and every reason to think he should get into UW's b-school, but there are a lot of variables. A direct admit to a comparable school tipped the scale away from UW.</p>
<p>If you get direct admit, go to Indiana definitely, but if you don't get direct admit to Indiana go to Wisconsin, simple enough right? I will write more about this later.</p>
<p>Why would you attempt to get into a #27 school instead of a #10 school after not getting in as a direct admit? Another concern is that U-Wisc only has a 2 year business program, which is going to hurt you if you want a sophomore internship. Whereas at Kelley you apply in your freshman year if you don't get in as a direct admit.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bus.wisc.edu/undergrad/admissions/faq/admissions.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.bus.wisc.edu/undergrad/admissions/faq/admissions.asp</a>
<a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/apr2006/bs20060417_285295.htm?chan=bschools_undergrad+programs_getting+in%5B/url%5D">http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/apr2006/bs20060417_285295.htm?chan=bschools_undergrad+programs_getting+in</a></p>
<p>U-Wisc also doesn't seem to be anywhere near as forthcoming about career statistics as Kelley is. Which leads me to believe that U-Wisc's career statistics aren't impressive. The best I could find was a simplistic list and some salary statistics.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/employers/OCR/Alpha%20List/OCR%20Alpha%20List_2-07-06.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/employers/OCR/Alpha%20List/OCR%20Alpha%20List_2-07-06.pdf</a>
<a href="http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/resources/articles/other/salarystatistics/%5B/url%5D">http://www.bus.wisc.edu/career/resources/articles/other/salarystatistics/</a></p>
<p>I remember some months ago I said that 11% of 2005 Kelley finance majors went into Ibanking. Guess what percentage of 2006 Kelley finance majors went into Ibanking? 27%.</p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2375868#post2375868%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2375868#post2375868</a>
<a href="http://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/brochures/Finance.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/brochures/Finance.cfm</a></p>
<p>You tell me which horse to bet on.</p>
<p>Ya I dont know why some of u people are saying Wisc.</p>
<p>Okay guys, I just came back from the beach so, I can finally speak on the reason why I said my comment before. So here goes...Kelley Business is much better than Wisconsin Business because just look at the amount of people who get into Ibanking, they must be doing something right. If you get direct admit to Kelley, you can get a very solid for year education in business and land a great job when you graduate, but what many of you don't realize is that IU-Bloomington in general pretty much sucks in everything else and if you plan on applying as a transfer, chances are you might not be accepted after one or two years of horrendous courses in basic calculus and some other classes, if I remember correctly and if you don't make the GPA requirment to transfer and your stuck with an Econ degree from IU-Bloomington, you are kind of screwed. On the other hand you can go to University of Wisconsin ranked 34 with many good programs, including being top 10 in Economics, so you will have a great degree in the eyes of the business world, even if you don't get into the business world. You simply have more options at UWisc., but if you were accepted at IU-Kelley direct admit then by all means go there. You should know that business is all about having options and the more options you have, the better the outcome will be for you. This is also the same theory behind investment banking, it helps you get much better jobs once you leave it. </p>
<p>**Also, I am an impulsive gambler and I am probably going to be stuck in the same situation as you, except instead of it being IU and Uwisc, it will be IU and some other place, but I would choose IU if the other school was worse, but in your case Uwisc seems like the better option for you otherwise the first two years college classes are going to be boring and think about what your options are if you don't get into IU-Kelly. Always figure out your exit point before you do anything because otherwise your going to get stuck. Again, this is just my opinion and there is a large chance that I will end up in IU without direct admit so I am sort of speaking like a hypocrite lol, but its your choice to make.</p>
<p>premed wannabe, i think told you in your chances thread that you wil probaly get direct admit. or maybe im wrong and i got the wrong person......?</p>
<p>^Maybe, but my stats are borderline because of GPA...so I am hoping for the best and expecting the worst, but I will probably opt to go to a top 20 liberal arts college for 3 years and major in econ or physics and get my BA, then go to Columbia school of Engineering and Applied science for 2 more years and get a BS in Industrial Engineering and enter the world of finance that way because nearly all of the IB's, Consulting firms and other top companies recruit traders and analyst from the IEOR department and this route will probably give me the biggest advancement curve.</p>