<p>Where would you look for ecology or environmental studies? Colleges, universities, whatever...?</p>
<p>environmental studies is different from environmental "science"...different majors</p>
<p>environmental "studies
Claremont McKenna
Occidental
Pitzer
Pomona
Scripps
UC Berkeley, Riverside, Santa Barbara
USC
U Colorado Boulder
Connecticut College
American U
George Washington U
U Chicago
Earlham
u Evansville
U Iowa
U Kansas
Bates
Colby
C of Atlantic
Johns Hopkins
Boston U
Clark
Harvard
Mt Holyoke
Northeastern
Wellesley
WPI
Macalester
St Olaf
Washington u St Louis
Carroll C
Montana St Billings
Rocky Mt C
U Montana Western
U Nebraska Lincoln
Dartmouth
Alfred U
Co;gate
Hobart
Ithaca
St Lawrence
Sarah Lawrence
Skidmore
SUNY C of Env Sci Forestry
SUNY Stiny Brook
Syracuse
U Rochester
Vassar
UNC Ashville
Case Western
Oberlin
Ohio U
Lewis and Clark
Allegheny
Bucknell
Dickinson
Gettysburg
Grove City
Juniata
Brown
Furman
Texas A&M
Bennington
Middlebury
U Vermont
Wm and Mary
Washington and Lee
Evergreen St
Whitman
Lawrence U
U Wisconsin Madison
U Wyoming</p>
<p>Environmental Studies usually INCLUDES some environmental science. I was asking about schools that offer STRONG programs.</p>
<p>Good interest, ecology is my field of interest. collegehelp listed LACs excellent for ecology/env. science, but I would certainly add Davidson to the list (and definitely take JHU off!).</p>
<p>My list of universities would include:
Stanford
U Chicago
Duke
Cornell
UC Davis
Princeton
Washington
UC Berkeley
Wisconsin
Michigan
Yale</p>
<p>UCLA, UNC, Brown, U Georgia, Ohio State, and UVa are also worth looking into. </p>
<p>I listed the selective schools because that's what most CC'ers look at, but there's also a lot of really good programs at less selective schools. </p>
<p>Duke has the awesome advantage of the Nicholas School of the Environment (you can take courses in it as an undergrad, and undergrads can work in the labs). It also has the advantages of a brand-new research facility, Duke Forest, a phytotron, Marine Lab, etc. Duke offers a BS in Env. Science, BA in Env. Studies, and a BA/MA Env. Management program. :)</p>
<p>Gourman Report Undergrad
environmental sciences
Harvard
MIT
Cornell
UC Berkeley
UC Davis
U Michigan Ann Arbor
U Penn
UVA
SUNY Coll Env Sci Forestry
JHU
Purdue
U Minnesota</p>
<p>The Env. Science program at JHU is essentially an Earth Science major and has very little ecology or policy. I'm also willing to question the Gourman since it left off Stanford, Chicago, and Duke- easily the top 3 in ecology.</p>
<p>Ecology is not my area of expertise. I couldn't really say how accurate the environmental science/studies lists are. Its good to critique them.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins has a Geoecology major and Environmental Studies minor in the Department of Earth and Planetary Studies. It does seem to include some geology and oceanography. I don't know if that is unusual for an ecology major. Here is the link. Look for the geoecology concentration info in the middle of the page.</p>
<p>Personally, I would really think long and hard before going into environmental "studies" rather than envrionmental science. What are your plans for the degree? Most times the best reason to get the enviro studies over enviro science is as a stepping stone into law school. Many environmental studies programs are BA degrees rather than BS degrees which typically limit your employability in consulting firms.</p>
<p>collegehelp: that geoecology track looks pretty good...has the core courses in geology but has the ecology twist to it which is great for students interested in paleo., evol., climatology, etc. </p>
<p>When looking for a good school with environmental studies or science, look at their geology department as well. I feel that every environmental student should have a good baseline education in geology since it hinges on pretty much everything going on at Earth's surface and thus has an impact on human society and thus the laws that should be in place to take care of the Earth.</p>
<p>Wisconsin - Madison would be a good choice, they have an excellent geology department (3rd in nation by American Geological Insititute) plus an environmental studies major and many other strong science departments so you can specialize your degree with your interests.</p>
<p>Minnesota seems good too, great geology department plus the environmental science program.</p>
<p>Also, Columbia has an excellent geology department with the environmental spin. Plus Columbia has excellent academics in general.</p>
<p>What I would recommend doing is looking for schools with strong biology/geology/chemistry departments because if these departments are all strong, their environmental studies program will also likely be strong.</p>
<p>Let me know if you have any questions...as you can see I'm more versed in geology (it's my field of choice) but have experience in environmental studies as well (it was my original major as an undergrad).</p>
<p>ophiolite- I finally understand your name! I thought it was a rather odd CC name. :p</p>
<p><em>rushes to promote Duke again</em>
Duke has an excellent geology/Earth Science department, and its oceanography program is particularly good. Just look at all the areas Duke has expertise in: </p>
<p>air quality
atmospheric science
biodiversity
biogeochemistry
business and the environment
coastal zone management
conservation biology
decision analysis
desertification
earth surface processes
ecology
endangered/threatened species
energy
environmental chemistry
environmental economics
nvironmental genomics
environmental health
environmental law
environmental policy
environmental sociology and anthropology
environmental toxicology
estuarine ecosystems
fisheries and fish ecology
fisheries policy and management
forest fires and fire ecology
forest management and silviculture
geochemistry
geology
geomorphology
geophysics/seismology
geospatial technologies
global change ecology
global climate change
hydrology
land use and sprawl
landscape dynamics
marine biomedicine
marine science
oceanography
paleoclimatology
petrology
population growth
risk analysis
sediment transport/strata formation
shorelines and coastal geology
soil science
solid earth processes
statistics
structural geology/tectonics
terrestrial ecosystems
tropical ecology
water quality
wetland ecology</p>
<p>...in addition to other resources (e.g. botany, primatology, animal behavior, etc. in biology department). If you want paleontology, the Biological Anthropology & Anatomy offers plenty of courses in it. :)</p>
<p>I think that's the longest post I've posted.</p>
<p>warblersrule86: Hehe...only select few can figure out what it means...and when they do they realize how much of a nerd I am ;)</p>
<p>Ick..Duke...well they do have a great Geology Dept with the environmental focus...</p>
<p>I chose UNC for grad school though because well...my username says a lot about my reserach interests :)</p>
<p>But for anyone interested in environmental geoscience, Duke is a great place (hoping I don't get kicked out of UNC for that one ;))</p>
<p>Yes, I'm mostly interested in LACs... and I'm not sure if I want to study environmental science or public policy, b/c I'm interested in both. From what I've heard I might not feel comfortable at Duke socially, I'm kind of a very liberal geek, but arguably that's a pansy way to choose a college</p>
<p>Davidson, Carleton, Oberlin seem like good options. Do you know anything about Reed?</p>
<p>Reed actually has a pretty good env. science program. Reed has a 3-2 program with the Nicholas School at Duke, and you can major in anything at Reed and still qualify. </p>
<p>Swarthmore might also be worth looking into btw, especially for a "liberal geek." :)</p>
<p>Yeah, unfortunately I'm looking to transfer to one of these schools. I was accepted to Swat last year and didn't go, and now my app is a bit weaker I think, so that could be a problem...</p>
<p>Ever think about Dickinson College? They are a good LAC with a good program. Franklin and Marshall would be good to look into as well...</p>
<p>Not sure if they qualify as a liberal geek atmosphere...but I know they both have great science programs and send lots of students to graduate school.</p>
<p>Good comments from Warbler and Oliophite. At many schools Environmental Science/Studies is an interdisciplinary major.</p>
<p>Consider also Lehigh Univerisity and Hood College (Maryland). Hood offers a split program with Duke.</p>
<p>Oh...I forgot about a college that may fit your needs. </p>
<p>Williams College has an excellent geology program and offers concentrations in environmental studies and have majors in political science (of course...) and political economy (sounds kind of interesting...). </p>
<p>There are also lots of opportunities to study abroad at Williams. For example: I know of a geology professor there that has active reserach opportunities in Madagascar and frequently has students complete senior theses there. Their environmental studies students also have the 'study away' program which you may want to look into.</p>
<p>I think no matter what route you decide to go, Williams would provide you with an excellent education. Not sure how tough the transfer admission is though...</p>
<p>The transfer competition to Williams is brutal, unfortunately... Otherwise, thanks for the suggestion. Transfer admissions is tougher than regular admissions at most of the top schools.</p>
<p>What about Brown, then? Their transfer admissions rate is relatively high, and their env. science program is decent (partnership with Woods Hole, I think). </p>
<p>Middlebury and Pomona seem to be well-represented at Duke's Nicholas School, so I assume they have good programs too. Not sure about the transfer rates.</p>
<p>Middlebury had the nation's first undergraduate major in environmental studies, established in 1965. If you do some digging, you'll find that Middlebury's program is widely regarded as one of the best in the country.</p>