<p>Florida Gulf Coast is actually becoming a stronger school. FGCU is where alot of people go from around my area (Cape Coral). If I wanted to stay at home, I would go there obviously.</p>
<p>But you're right on with USF -- not academically up there.</p>
<p>Even though NCF is not very well know, the school rejects a little bit over 50% of the applicants.</p>
<p>i guess they have to, as they only have 750 undergrads</p>
<p>ncf is a honors liberal arts college so of course they will reject a lot of people</p>
<p>UWF is not really known its a little too close to the backwoods of alabama</p>
<p>I must add that NCF is for a special kind of person. It is not for everyone.</p>
<p>Are you kidding? (Reference post # 139)</p>
<p>For Criminology/Criminal Justice FSU has the oldest and best regarded program in Florida and one of the top in the United States.</p>
<p>See: FSU</a> Highlights</p>
<p>and: Research</a> Brought To Life : Florida State University College of Criminology & Criminal Justice</p>
<p>I go to UCF and love it.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
<p>I have friends at UF, USF, UCF and of course I go to FAU.</p>
<p>Outside of the Tier 1 ranked academics, UF is a great place because of the atmosphere. There is Gator stuff everywhere -- even the pool in a student apartment complex ten minutes from the school has a Gator head painted on the bottom. There are cheap restaurants, bars and indie clubs. As long as you don't call them out on being arrogant about the success of their athletics teams, the students are friendly and you can meet lots of people at parties. So it's a fun place.</p>
<p>USF is okay, they obviously have a good football team with a lot of potential. Their medical school is excellent. Their campus is ordinary and my friend that goes there has to carry protection because the neighborhood around campus is so dangerous.</p>
<p>UCF added a lot of facilities over the past couple of years (hence why they earned the nickname Under Construction Forever) including housing, student union, pool, football stadium. It's all nice and shiny and has convinced people it's the place to go to enjoy your college experience. However, every time my sister goes up there, she complains about how massively immature everyone is. I'll have debates with UCF students and they'll have a hard time following what I'm saying. So the impressive FTIC scores are a little misleading versus the actual product. Their football team is okay with good potential but they're definitely progressing slowly, having only won one conference title in nearly 30 years of playing football.</p>
<p>FAU is great and gets no credit for it because the student body is so varied and a lot of time don't make an effort to absorb the atmosphere. Everybody's always telling FAU students that they'd have such a great time somewhere else that a large portion of them treat the school like a job. However, the school is steadily rising in popularity and of course I'm going to say we have a great football team -- because we do.</p>
<p>That is a ridiculous generalization FAU Guy. I am sure that you are quite articulate but to assume that you are a great deal smarter than most UCF students because of the few you talked to is bad advice for people. Most of us have the scores, grades, and abilities to be very successful and I am sure that the few you talked do not represent the 50,000 people who go to UCF.</p>
<p>The schools with the best academics and the best parties are University of Florida and University of Miami. If your focused more on studying, or your really good in sports, go to UF. But, if you love the beach and like to party but, still want to have a decent education (especially if you want to be a marine biologist) go to UM. They're pretty hard to get into, but not so bad. It would help a lot if your an IB student. UF admits A LOT of IB students, especially if you live in Florida. With location, I don't really like Gainesville - where UF is located, the city seems kind of old to me but, the university is HUGE. It's far better in appearance than UM but, UM is located in a better area. Like I said before, the party life is great because it's in MIAMI. Lots of clubs, lots of shops, etc. If your looking for more of a social life instead of being too serious about education UM is definitely for you. But, in my opinion, I would prefer UF because the students aren't as crazy and the professors are pretty decent. By the way, if you plan on going to UF be ready for HUGE classes. Your not really going to have individual attention from your professors - one of the drawbacks of going to UF. In the case of UM, I'm sure the classes are pretty big too - but, I'm not so sure about that so don't take my word on it.</p>
<p>future-scientist, UM will be ranked higher than UF in the next few years, mark my words on this one. UM not being serious about academics but UF is? Come on now.</p>
<p>Plus with all the budget cuts the entire Florida public universities are undergoing, I would not be surprised at all that UM will outrank UF this year and FSU will drop to the third tier.</p>
<p>I agree with the other posters. Go to UF or UM for academics. The next step below that would be FSU. If you're looking for a party scene just go to any of the large schools FSU, UF, UM, UCF, USF. If you're into football look at FSU, UF, and UM. With the budget cuts, stay with the big 3.</p>
<p>^This is false. You better pick your area first.</p>
<p>"Go to UF or UM for academics" is only true when you go to a program at those schools that is strong. Caveat emptor.</p>
<p>FSU has some very strong areas that are much better than those at UF or UM.</p>
<p>See: FSU</a> Highlights</p>
<p>Ah, that's not what I meant by that. UF and UM are perceived to have a wider variety of stronger academics due to selectivity. FSU is on the rise due to the budget issue but won't reach that level until another cycle or two. One thing that bothers me is that the highlights link only shows how strong a graduate department is and not how it relates to undergrads. </p>
<p>Also budget cuts won't drop FSU into third tier ranking. This will decrease the number of students accepted and increase selectivity.</p>
<p>Graduate strength figures into undergraduate quality. Those professors that achieve high levels of performance influence departments and improve quality. This in turn attracts better qualified grad students who, with the faculty, influence the undergraduates.</p>
<p>The 112 ranking of FSU in the latest US News was based on 2006 data - before FSU cut the bottom 20% of the freshman applicant class off.</p>
<p>For more current FSU applicant data see: FSU</a> Highlights </p>
<p>The average SAT for Fall 2008 at FSU is now 1265.</p>
<p>Its also an error to compare UM with either UF or FSU. The sizes of the state schools dwarf UMiami.</p>
<p>For example, FSU has 16 Colleges and offers more than 300 undergraduate, graduate, doctoral, professional and specialist degree programs, including medicine and law. Miami has 12 Colleges and offers 115 bachelors, 114 masters, 51 doctoral programs plus medicine and law.</p>
<p>Plus, just found this - Miami's average SAT is 1275.</p>
<p>See: University</a> of Miami Fact Finder 2007 - 2008 | University of Miami</p>
<p>Note that FSU has more than double the number of undergraduates than Miami:
FSU: 31,508 (2007 data)
Miami: 15,449</p>
<p>"Its also an error to compare UM with either UF or FSU. The sizes of the state schools dwarf UMiami."
This is such garbage!</p>
<p>UM has constantly been compared to UF and FSU because they are the same type of schoos, 4 year research universities! sure there are differences such as size, but to compare means to evaluate similarities and differences. </p>
<p>in previous posts on this thread, yo say Miami has less resources than FSU and UF. For your information we have just many if not more resources than UF and FSU.
Examples of how many more resources we have than FSU:
- Higher Endowment money:
According to Nacubo and Wikipedia
FSU: $548 Million
UMiami: $741 Million
- Greater Research Expenditures:<br>
UMiami: $274 Million
FSU: $130 Million
Grad</a> Profiles - Florida State University</p>
<ul>
<li>Bigger Libraries: According to US News
UMiami: 3,013,867 Number of books, serial backfiles, and other material including government documents.
FSU: 2,947,702 Number of books, serial backfiles, and other material including government documents.</li>
</ul>
<p>Miami has much more resources available than FSU which is just one of the reasons why Everyone in this thread other than you has listed UM>FSU.
our size in respect to student body is pointless when we with our small size, we recieve much more money than FSU, have built bigger libraries and fund more research than FSU does. Our career center according to Princeton Review was ranked among the top 20 in the nation. </p>
<p>Admissions:</p>
<p>Here are some facts derived off of College Board. </p>
<p>Acceptance Rate:
UMiami: 38%
FSU: 55%</p>
<p>Sat Score ranges:</p>
<p>UM: 1180-1370
FSU: 1090-1270</p>
<p>GPA:
UM: 74% had GPA of 3.75 and higher
FSU: 39% had GPA of 3.75 and higher</p>
<p>Class Rank:
UMiami: 65% in top tenth of graduating class
FSU: 24% in top 10th of graduating class</p>
<p>Noles, this thread is geared towards undergrad and not grad school. You somehow like to point out how they are relevant, but the relevance is insignificant, and I am not the only one to say that. not all faculty in grad departments teach in the undergrad level and for the most part it has little to do with the prestige of the undergrad programs.</p>
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<p>I agree, FSU isn't even in the radar of UM.</p>
<p>UF is easily comparable to UM in the fact that it is losing ground whereas UM is constantly gaining ground, in 1-3 years UM will be higher ranked.. hell it already has better academics.</p>