<p>Is there Superiority complex among SEAS ?</p>
<p>SEAS student seems to have higher SAT scores and GPAs than CC. I also heard that SEAS get many I Banking job offers..</p>
<p>I thought it would be the other way around?</p>
<p>I think it goes both ways plus it's retarded. We're the same school--- why feel superior over one another?</p>
<p>SEAS has a higher SAT/GPA.
CC has a much lower admit rate.
SEAS gets ppl into IB.
CC gets ppl into IB + Medical School and Law School.
SEAS engineering kids can dish some serious pwnage over your average CC kid.
The Rabbi Scholar physics major at Columbia College will probably own any SEAS kid.
SEAS kids probably screw the curve if you take a science Biochem class or something.
CC kids will own any SEAS kids explicating Sophacles, Machiavelli, or just debating in general.
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<p>This list could go on. There's really no reason for any inferiority/superiority complex. My friend at CC right now said that the average seas kid is smarter than the cc kids in the math/sciences-- but the smartest person you'll find undergrad is almost always in Columbia College. Just anecdotally, out of the 4 friends and I who applied to Columbia with 2350+ SAT's and 3.9+ Gpa's all applied to Columbia College. The average doesnt really mean anything.</p>
<p>Plus rather than hating on each other... isnt that what we have _ _ _ _ _ _ _ for? =))))</p>
<p>Barnard!
Don't forget statistics only tell so much about a group, but it tells nothing about the individual.</p>
<p>truazn, my son is taking your advice and going to Columbia. But he is SEAS. On a fun note, he has 2350, + 800s on several ST 2s 760 in Latin and 5 on all Humanities APs till not (Virgil, French, English, USHist, Euro) + expects 5s on all Science/Math Aps this senior yr so he will be the smartest and in SEAS!!!!
What is Rabi scholar? Son interested in physics, very very good at it but are there jobs in physics? What can you do with it? What is applied physics? Please help. </p>
<p>Thanks, Mr. Truazn, he is not going to Brown.</p>
<p>"+ 800s on several ST"
How can you score beyond 800?</p>
<p>"he will be the smartest and in SEAS!!!!"
LOL, are you really a parent?</p>
<p>"What is Rabi scholar?"
It's amazing, be glad that he got into it.</p>
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<p>Huh? SEAS kids go to law/med school. There are probably as many if not more premeds in SEAS on a per capita basis.</p>
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SEAS kids probably screw the curve if you take a science Biochem class or something.
CC kids will own any SEAS kids explicating Sophacles, Machiavelli, or just debating in general.
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<p>This isn't right. There are plenty of well-rounded, "Renaissance men" type kids in SEAS. SEAS kids perform just as well as CC kids in the humanities core classes.</p>
<p>I am looking at the list of first year Harvard Medical School MD students, with their undergraduate origin.</p>
<p>There are more Columbia Engineering student than Columbia College students</p>
<p>Hey poxpox, can you post the link to that list you just mentioned. Im just interested in seeing, thanks.</p>
<p>I don't have link. But if you are in near Cambridge, MA, you can get the booket from Harvard Medical School Admissions office</p>
<p>Yea Mr. Ramaswami, it's great that your son is such a high achiever. Just be careful not to set your standards too high for him... since you believe he will be the "smartest," simply based on a few numbers. It's great to be optimistic, but not blindly optimistic about your son's abilities.</p>
<p>I think he was just joking, though (I seriously hope so).</p>
<p>its kinda strange but I think most of truazn's post is somewhat correct or at least what the general perception of the student body is</p>
<p>SEAS has a higher SAT/GPA.
thats' true</p>
<p>CC has a much lower admit rate.
yep</p>
<p>SEAS gets ppl into IB.
Financial Engineering or Operations Research are really popular, and a LOT of SEAS kids definitely go into finance... i actually heard of one heavy quant firm only wanting financial engineering majors</p>
<p>CC gets ppl into IB + Medical School and Law School.
So does SEAS... though I would think that CC gets many more kids into Law due to the large number of econ, poly sci or history majors</p>
<p>SEAS engineering kids can dish some serious pwnage over your average CC kid.
I don't really know what you mean by that, but I mean, SEAS kids are more math/engineering oriented and generally go into analytical fields. Nowadays math and science tend to be the "wow factors," but that doesn't really gauge intelligence.</p>
<p>The Rabbi Scholar physics major at Columbia College will probably own any SEAS kid.
Probably...there are a lot of extremely bright kids at both schools</p>
<p>SEAS kids probably screw the curve if you take a science Biochem class or something.
SEAS curves are lower... CC mostly scales to a B/B+, whereas I've heard SEAS is B-/B</p>
<p>CC kids will own any SEAS kids explicating Sophacles, Machiavelli, or just debating in general.
Not really, although SEAS kids don't really take those core classes. That's the biggest issue I think that divides the schools. SEAS kids don't go through the two long courses of Lit Hum and CC (which are the two most important core courses, and imo the most interesting) </p>
<p>The degree/major thing is somewhat restricitng. SEAS kids can't major in Math, Chemistry, Physics, Economics, History...etc, but rather Applied Math, Chemical Engineering, Applied physics?...mainly engineering courses. CC kids can't major in engineering things, including the popular financial engineering (although CC has joint degrees, and Econ-Math would do the trick). both schools can do Comp Sci. Also, the average CC GPA is higher than SEAS, simply because of the grading scale.</p>
<p>Bipolarbear, there's actually a joint degree like you mentioned that's Economics-Operations Research. Since OpR is the umbrella major over Financial Engineering- I think it's actually one of the only majors that goes between two schools. </p>
<p>Check it out:
<a href="http://www.ieor.columbia.edu/pages/undergraduate/econ_operations_research/index.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.ieor.columbia.edu/pages/undergraduate/econ_operations_research/index.html</a></p>
<p>yeah, Financial Engineering and Computer Science are the overlap majors between the two schools.</p>
<p>Yea, CC kids can do econ-or, but not or by itself.</p>
<p>also, CC is a lot bigger, so you'll likely find the smartest people at Columbia to be in the college as well as the dumbest. i would imagine average intelligence to be about the same</p>
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also, CC is a lot bigger, so you'll likely find the smartest people at Columbia to be in the college as well as the dumbest. i would imagine average intelligence to be about the same
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<p>The dumbest people at Columbia are undoubtedly in CC -- those being some of the athletes, marginally qualified URMs, and development cases. (No, not all of the kids in those categories are dumb.) But that has nothing to do with the fact that CC is bigger.</p>
<p>I'm not sure how a larger school means there is more deviation from the means. So, on that basis, I would wholeheartedly dispute your speculation that the smartest people are in CC. I'd say the smartest people in CC and SEAS are on par with each other.</p>
<p>^I'd agree. The smartest kids at CC are the Rabi scholars + a few others. The smartest SEAS kids are on par with them.</p>
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<p>What's that?</p>
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The smartest kids at CC are the Rabi scholars + a few others. The smartest SEAS kids are on par with them.
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<p>What's with the fixation with Rabi scholars these last two weeks? Before two weeks ago, I'd never seen a thread on this board about Rabi scholars in the time I've been posting here.</p>
<p>Some of the Rabi scholars are brilliant; others simply excelled in high school in a big-fish-small-pond setting and are average Columbia students. Also, it's a narrow program directed at physics, and there are brilliant Columbia kids who aren't physics types.</p>
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<p>Like a super-legacy. Daddy is rich and powerful enough to buy you a seat in the class even if you're not really qualified.</p>