<p>Since AP results are self-reported is it worth reporting a 4? (Am so disappointed, I didn't get a 5 as I worked so hard.)</p>
<p>Our school doesn't offer any AP courses in History so I just studied on my own. And it also means Yale won't be looking for a AP result to be reported.</p>
<p>I don't care at all about the credit. I took test strictly to enhance my application, but with a 4 I don't think it helps. And in fact, wondering if it may even hurt my chances.</p>
<p>You’ll be fine. A 4 is a good score and taking the exam shows that you’re challenging yourself. I don’t think it’ll help you much but it won’t hurt. In general AP scores seem to be used to confirm the grades earned in a class.</p>
<p>Cheer up :)</p>
<p>AP scores weigh little, if at all, in the admissions process. I see nothing wrong with self-reporting a 4.</p>
<p>DS self-studied Physics C and got a 4 in one of the parts and a 5 in the other. Didn’t seem to hurt him any. Just as the SATs, ACT, etc., it is a reflection of your performance on one test on one particular day. </p>
<p>If it doesn’t help my case, then frankly, I am leaning towards not reporting it. I am a rising junior so hopefully on next year’s APs I will have some 5’s to report.</p>
<p>Yes. If you get college credit for it, might as well report it. It’s a fine score, and it’s better than making them assume you didn’t take it at all or assume the worst. Report it, there’s nothing to lose</p>
<p>^^ Well you dont get credit for any History AP at Yale. And like I said, my school didn’t offer the AP course so they wont “assume the worst”, since they wont be expecting an AP exam result.</p>
<p><a href=“http://yalecollege.yale.edu/new-students/class-2018/academic-information/acceleration/table-acceleration-credit”>http://yalecollege.yale.edu/new-students/class-2018/academic-information/acceleration/table-acceleration-credit</a></p>
<p>So in light of the fact that
<p>I see no reason at all to report.</p>
<p>@RoomNacht Then don’t report it.</p>
<p>^^Guess what I was hoping to hear was case studies (like @IxnayBob 's) of those admitted to Yale who reported (or didnt report) 4’s. And if they did report a 4 was it diluted in a sea of 5’s</p>
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Then you don’t understand selective college admissions. If an AP course appears on your transcript, but you do not self-report the corresponding AP test on the Common Application, colleges will think one of two things: (a) You didn’t take the test because you were unmotivated and lazy, or (b) You scored badly on the test and some colleges might assume you got a 1. Neither of those options will help you in your pursuit of a selective college like Yale. </p>
<p>So you need to report the score of 4, regardless of your disappointment! Reporting a score of 4 is better than Yale assuming you got a 1!</p>
<p>^^ Sorry, I missed that you self-studied for the test and that your high school doesn’t offer an AP in History.</p>
<p>That changes things slightly, but I think you should still report the score. By self-reporting, Admissions will notice that you took the AP test on your own without taking the AP course and scored well. (Come on . . . scoring a 4 without taking the course is doing well!) By self-reporting the score you are telling Yale that you are a self-motivated learner – and that’s what Admissions looks for in applicants! This from Michele Hernandez in * A is for Admission*</p>
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<p>I’m not sure that DS’s 4 was “diluted in a sea of 5s,” but you wanted some case studies, so I’ll be more complete. I looked it up, and DS actually had 2 grades of 4 in a sea of 6 grades of 5. He attended a school more oriented to IB than AP, and since he was an IB candidate, he took only a couple of AP courses (although some of the IB courses were roughly comparable).</p>
<p>He self-studied Stat, Physics C, and Comp Sci with no comparable IB course. One could argue that he partially self-studied Physics B and English Language and Composition. He took APUS and Calc BC. He got 5s in everything other than Physics C Mechanics and Stat, where he got 4s.</p>
<p>He took those APs as a personal challenge to be a National AP scholar (not my idea, I thought he was burning the candle at both ends) and also because his Plan B (not mine either) was that if he got into his second choices, he wanted to be able to graduate quickly or maybe do a bachelors and masters at the same time. As luck would have it, he got into his first choice and the AP results are ancient history.</p>
<p>As I’ve said before, who knows what the Adcoms are basing their decisions on, but I firmly believe that it was DS’s essays and recommendations that resulted in his acceptance. His GC, after we had a meeting of the three of us, said to me after DS had left the room that “he really is someone who does it for the love of learning, isn’t he?” I was so pleased that she had realized it, and I’m sure that it was the foundation of her recommendation.</p>
<p>So, my advice is to worry about other things. Think about who you are, what you want in a school, what you bring to a school, why people will smile to see you coming, etc. An AP score of 4 is the least of your concerns, and is not a bad score in any case; I’d say something different if you got a 2.</p>
<p>^^ Thanks a lot for sharing. So of the 8 APs your son took, how many were completed after his junior year?</p>
<p>^^ He took no AP tests after junior year. He took 2 as a sophomore and 6 as a junior. Some of the tests weren’t offered at his school, so it was a bit of a logistical challenge. </p>
<p>^^ Suspect your son’s 4s were drowned out in a sea of 5s.</p>
<p>I will only have 4 total APs to report when I apply, with Bio being the only AP course. All the others will require self-study. So unless I get 5s on the remaing three APs I dont plan on reporting the 4 on History.</p>
<p>Can anyone share their AP reporting situation?
(Would like to try to keep discussion to FACTS based on what you DID. Not what you THINK adcoms will view favorably)</p>
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I plan on self-reporting mine.</p>
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Four years ago, my son self-reported 4 AP’s: AP Spanish, AP US, AP Euro and AP Comp Sci (all 5’s) and indicated he would be taking the AP Calc BC and AP Physics tests his senior year (he scored 5’s on those as well). He did report all his scores and did not self study for any test – all courses were on his HS transcript. The 5 on AP Spanish exempted him from all but one semester of Yale’s foreign language requirement and currently his transcript carries two AP credits (the maximum Yale allows, as he is not graduating with Acceleration Credit) for AP Calc BC and AP Physics.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think you’re being a bit irrational.
A 4 IS NOT THAT BAD. A 4 for self study is a good score - seriously. Don’t be misguided by the draw of getting fives.
My school offered 2 AP’s and I self studied one. My self study is a 5, and the two I took courses for were a 4 and a 5. That’s it. I didn’t question if I should put it on my transcript or not, and I was accepted.
The truth of the matter is that they want a whole person. No admissions officer, even at Yale, is going to be like ‘gosh, we love this kid, his essays are fantastic… but oh gosh. He got a 4. Reject’.
It doesn’t work like that. A 4 is fine with the rest of your scores, but to get in you have to have the essays, the recs, and so forth. After a certain point, scores stop mattering and you need to have the whole package as an applicant.
Report it. </p>
<p>^^ Very helpful and encouraging. Thanks.</p>
<p>(Btw, which AP tests did you take?)</p>
<p>I took AP World (4), AP US (5), Human Geography (self study) (5). </p>
<p>I would worry more about the rest of your application than a single score, relax, it’s alright. </p>