<p>mom2college, we are all thinking of your friend’s husband. Please keep us updated.</p>
<p>“I completely disagree. I have close relative who was the victim of a very violent crime. He lived to tell his story, but was given a 5% chance of making it through the night it happened. It has taken a long time to heal. It has been a long long road that no person, and no family should have to travel. Had he died, we would be visiting a grave. Amy’s family can still talk to her, write to her, and visit a living person.”</p>
<p>True that they can visit a living person, but at the same time, they don’t get the support that people get when a loved one dies. Amy Bishop’s innocent children probably will be shunned and victimized for decades to come because of their mother’s actions. Think about it: Would you allow your kids to visit the home of someone whose parent murdered people in cold blood? Would you feel comfortable having such children visit your home or be friends with your kids? Would you feel comfortable having such a person as your own friend or romantic partner?</p>
<p>If your loved one deliberately killed someone, wouldn’t you wonder if perhaps you could have done something to have kept that from happening?</p>
<p>Regardless of how it happens, everyone will die, so their survivors will have to cope with their deaths. Not everyone will become a murderer.</p>
<p>I hope to never have such a choice, but if I had to choose, I’d rather have a loved one be murdered than to have a loved one be a murderer.</p>
<p>I am very sympathetic to Amy Bishop’s children, and to her husband if he knew nothing about what was going to unfold.</p>
<p>NSM, having corresponded with you through the years, and what has come across for years as your strong sense of ethics, I cannot even begin to understand your last post. It sounds to me as though you are trivializing an attempted murder of a young person who was in perfect health, by basically saying, and I am summarizing it, as everyone will die some day, so just cope. The shock of it was too much for any of us to cope with. We had a lot to deal with, the crime created havoc for over a year, and our relative survived his trauma. I am talking about the victim, who is someone’s son, brother, husband, father, etc. It is unimaginable. Oh, and one more thing, the last thing we thought about would have been sympathy of others. Had he died, many of us would be living with big holes in our hearts that nothing but time could begin to heal. Sympathy? I would not have cared. People sympathize for a week, and then they tend to forget anyway. The pain lasts a lifetime.</p>
<p>*mom2college, we are all thinking of your friend’s husband. Please keep us updated. *</p>
<p>He’s still in critical condition. He was shot in the head, but the bullet lodged in his neck (removed during surgery). It’s unknown if there is any permanent brain damage. He can move his limbs.</p>
<p>He was on the tenure committee.</p>
<p>Let’s keep the thread here, but not discuss the pros and cons of the DP. That’s not what’s important about this thread (AT ALL). I don’t want it moved to the politics area, because I refuse to visit that @*&$ crazy place …LOL</p>
<p>Oh my, I just read that your friend’s husband was one of her victims, mom2collegekids. I just want send best wishes for a full and speedy recovery!</p>
<p>I think it’s going to be very tough going for Amy Bishop’s kids. What was that line in Jumanji?</p>
<p>“You think anyone showed up at my fourteenth birthday party?”</p>
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<p>Life in prison is meaningless. North Carolina is set to release a number of convicted murderers who were sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. Turns out, “life” only means 80 years here, which drops to about 20 if the inmates do a work release program. End result: murderers back on the street.</p>
<p>I’m only in favor of the death penalty in the case of multiple murders and/or terrorism. This case would meet the first criteria. Killings spaced 20 years apart show that she would probably do it again if she got out sometime.</p>
<p>mom2college, I am thinking of your friend, her husband and all of you who love them. Please let them know that so many people are pulling for them.</p>
<p>I cannot explain the logic of it and I’m not claiming it the superior position but, yes, I’d rather be able to visit my child is prison, live with the guilt and the pain they caused rather than bury my child. I have deep sympathy for the family of a criminal but my heart absolutely shatters for the victim and their family.</p>
<p>I can’t fathom why no charges would have been pressed against her for killing her brother given what’s been stated in the articles. Also suspicious is why the records have disappeared. I suppose this prevented any background checks the Uni might have done from flagging issues that would have prevented her employment. </p>
<p>I’m glad a nut like this was NOT given tenure. I wonder if part of the reason was because of her behavior in the job. If so it would have been prudent to have some security personnel present - something that needs to be considered more when dealing with disturbed employees.</p>
<p>I’ve met McDuff, Dad<em>of</em>3. Cold dude. In fact, I’ve set across from several murderers. Hasn’t ever been pleasant, but he was…cold. </p>
<p>I, too, think we should refrain from death penalty discussions here. </p>
<p>My condolences to the friends and loved ones of all involved, good wishes to those injured, and Godspeed to those who are gone.</p>
<p>please stop hijacking this thread, people. There are a lot of us who really don’t want to see it moved to the election and politics forum. Start a new thread there if you want to talk about the death penalty, or revive the million-post thread there on gun control if you want to discuss that subject.</p>
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<p>That’s not mysterious to me at all. It’s not a small town but small enough. It is similar to me when police often seem loathe to charge a parent who drove drunk and killed their own child; the idea of “they’ve suffered enough.” It would be wrenching to know a woman had seen her son killed and then arrest her other child. Plus they would be accusing this same mother of lying, which may have seemed too cruel or even unthinkable. </p>
<p>Domestic violence is still often see as a personal issue and one that should be kept out of the courts. It would not suprise me if that was the unofficial justification for letting her go uncharged.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Agreed…Plus, supposedly the mom was some kind of community leader or well-known in the political community. It would have been hard to claim that she was lying.</p>
<p>Heck, I think I read she was on the police advisory board or some such.</p>
<p>*Oh my, I just read that your friend’s husband was one of her victims, mom2collegekids. I just want send best wishes for a full and speedy recovery! *</p>
<p>Thanks…He’s a wonderful husband and father. Volunteered a lot at the kids’ schools. He’s very athletic…coached the track team…and could often be seen jogging around the UAH campus. </p>
<p>The mom (my friend) is absolutely the nicest person you’d ever want to know. She was the first person to befriend me when we moved to Alabama. </p>
<p>We’re praying that there’s no lingering brain damage or other damage.</p>
<p>I live in Braintree, am not at all shocked at the coverup in '86. Amy’s mom sat on Chief Polio’s department’s town hall board for years. Present Chief Frazier is clearly upset that Polio got away with this in 86…as are most of the guys on the force. Mrs Bishop should have been booked and charged…then convicted of murder. Instead her mom had friends in high places…and her booking never was completed. What a sham…this never should have happened.</p>
<p>I’m glad a nut like this was NOT given tenure. I wonder if part of the reason was because of her behavior in the job. If so it would have been prudent to have some security personnel present - something that needs to be considered more when dealing with disturbed employees.</p>
<p>As some have said…while she didn’t display being “disturbed” at school, the tenure committee must have picked up on something.</p>
<p>When you think about it…there is something intrinsically wrong with someone who could kill her brother (accident or no accident) and then just continue on with her studies as if nothing had happened. </p>
<p>And, that mentality figures with a mother of 4 children who obviously gave no thought to her kids when she committed this evil crime.</p>
<p>I imagine that the tenure committee sensed something about her that didn’t warrant tenure. It had to be significant, because every school wants Ivy grads as faculty members.</p>
<p>Amy Bishop’s parents are still alive, and live in Ipswich. Not surprisingly, there’s been no comment from them.</p>
<p>mom2collegekids, lets hope that he gets through this critical time, and that he and his wife have many more wonderful years together. Here’s to many more years of volunteering, coaching or whatever else he’d like to do! My thoughts are with them. They can only take it one step at a time. You sound like a very good friend, and one that I am sure that she could use at this time in her life.</p>