Shooting rampage at my alma mater, UCSB. 7 dead. Horrifying.

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<p>but that isn’t unusual for someone who is awkward with women, who has a poor self-image, etc. It doesn’t surprise me that someone like him would be annoyed when he saw cute girls with other guys (deemed inferior by him). He would jump to conclusions that a short-time later they would be doing mattress gymnastics. </p>

<p>Was he ever Dx’d with anything? </p>

<p>@TatinG His mother seemed to be trying to help him, and I think she is the one who told about his youtubes so someone would check up on him. He says she told him she didn’t, that it was a health agency, but I think she very reasonably just didn’t want him mad at her, when she had tried and failed to get help. He took down his youtubes, he said, after the police spoke to him, and said he would have to put them up ‘along with the last one’ only right before the ‘Day of Retribution’ so he wouldn’t be stopped.</p>

<p>It is sort of sad for him to clearly not want to die and know he ‘has to’. He puts off ‘the Day’ a couple of times for flimsy reasons, and goes out every day near the end to ‘experience’ as much as he can before he died. He clearly was trapped by his own warped mind. I don’t know what anyone could have done to try to stop this though, his mom even ‘rented him friends’ in Santa Barbara to speak with, and he had multiple counselors.</p>

<p>mom2ck - We know he was diagnosed with Aspergers at a young age. And had multiple therapists, counselors, and a social worker. I don’t think there is a diagnosis for future mass murderer though.</p>

<p>@mom2collegekids I have seen reports he was diagnosed with aspergers but in his manifesto he doesn’t mention it. He does say he was prescribed a medication I forget the name of but when I looked it up it was prescribed SOMETIMES for autism but mostly for borderline personality disorder etc. He refused to take it.</p>

<p>Apparently he spent lot of time on websites where men discuss their hatred of women. he’s being haled as a hero on many comments sites. He may have been mentally ill, but what terrorist isn’t? I think he should be looked at in the same way as any terrorist who is part of an extreme hate community, and maybe that community should be given the same scrutiny given to religious, racist, or political hate/violence-mongering groups.</p>

<p>Not taking meds is a very big problem with meds. Meds also explain somewhat the way he seems to be watching the world go by and feeling disconnected. They often do that.</p>

<p>@garland I agree that that hate community seems more of a link than aspergers. I’ve known people with autism and aspergers and they can get very frustrated, of course, but this had other elements of being ‘entitled to sex’ with beautiful blondes because he wanted them that are bizarre to me (his own mental rejection of ugly brunettes or even pretty brunettes gave him no sense of hypocrisy, either).</p>

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<p>well, many who have been dx’d with BPD or other “bad sounding disorders” are not told that because the dx freaks them out, they vehemently deny it, and they refuse further treatment. also, many disorders co-exist (comorbidity) with other disorders…so he may have had Aspergers as well as something more serious, but not told. </p>

<p>does anyone remember what med he was prescribed?</p>

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<p>oh gag…a bunch of weirdos feeding off each other. that gang mentality can spur more violence.</p>

<p>I read somewhere that his hair was dyed blonde when he was little. Weird fact.</p>

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<p>Yeah, he was obsessed with being ‘fashionable’ like ‘the popular kids’ he hated and figured dressing at Val Surf and learning to skateboard and bleaching his hair was how to do it. He was mad when people didn’t realize how cool he had become as well… but that was in middle school, I think.</p>

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<p>that was very popular in southern calif back then…boys (young and teen) would bleach their hair white, and some would then let their natural hair grow out a bit, and then they would have these white ends sticking out.</p>

<p>mom2collegekids is correct…my son is also 22 and boys here in So Cal did bleach their hair blond…including my 8 year old son at the time!! </p>

<p>I am looking for the name of that prescription, but here is a sample of his manifesto:</p>

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<p>Just spent a while reading through most of the manifesto. Near the end, he says he planned to kill his little brother also because he was popular and outgoing. Does anyone know if he did it? :(</p>

<p>Well, I think we would know if that happened. The family has issued a statement.</p>

<p>OK, here is the medication his psychiatrist wanted him to take: Risperidone</p>

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<p>That bleached hair was very boy band cool a while back.</p>

<p>I know it is only one reference point, but I did know a man on the spectrum who wished for a girlfriend. He also obsessed about it but his obsessions were very different. He was not angry, hateful, or entitled. He just very much wanted to learn to be the kind of guy a woman would want, and if a young lady paid any attention to him, he would idolize her.</p>

<p>He didn’t play any dating games because he didn’t know how to, and he couldn’t read a person who was. Instead of wanting to hurt someone, he was so afraid of saying something wrong.</p>

<p>What backfired was his unawareness that these things take time and there is an expected way to proceed from meeting to getting married. After meeting someone, he didn’t expect a one night stand. He’d think about how to propose to them. He would quickly tell girls how beautiful they were. </p>

<p>Naturally, this more likely scared them off. But he would never intentionally harm someone. </p>

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<p>I don’t think that is meant as an excuse, rather than an explanation.</p>

<p>I hope no one is saying "it is okay, because he was mentally ill and couldn’t control himself (e.g. an excuse).</p>

<p>I think people are saying “how can anyone do this?”</p>

<p>I think he was mentally ill, but not insane. He also seems to have had no shortage of mental health care. That’s the problem.</p>

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<p>Yes, I know a number of people on the spectrum and this is more how they are. They want and accept feedback because they want to learn social skills. </p>

<p>The entitlement is very narcissistic. If he’d had his sights on girls other than hot blondes, he maybe could have found a girlfriend. But he felt he should have (his definition of) the best, and was furious that his specialness wasn’t acknowledged.</p>

<p>His creepy manifesto talks, from a very early age, about having to manipulate to get what he wants. Over and over he describes throwing a tantrum, and the results of said tantrum. Everything… all of it… is about him.</p>

<p>This isn’t Aspergers. He may have been given this diagnosis because it is more socially acceptable than narcissism or sociopathy. Actually, the latter two diagnoses can’t even be given until age 16. So docs had to say something. But it’s not Aspergers.</p>