Should I consider transferring out of Tufts?

Hi there!

I’m currently a sophomore at Tufts University, and I was wondering whether I should seriously consider transferring out of Tufts. I decided to attend Tufts over higher ranked schools – Northwestern, Cornell, Middlebury, and Wash U – thinking that I can get both ends of the world here (liberal arts & national research university), but I have been disappointed by the large class size, overall apathy from my advisor/professors, and lack of school social life/ school pride (stereotypes do hold some truths…) on campus. I can see how Tufts can be a perfect fit for many people, but I do not find myself particularly happy/ fulfilled at Tufts, for the reasons above.

Given my personal context, should I seriously consider transferring out of Tufts? Some of the schools that I’m currently considering are: Brown, Dartmouth, Yale, Williams, Swarthmore, Georgetown SFS, Amherst, and Columbia.

My current GPA @ Tufts is 3.85ish (International Relations & Quant Economics Major/ French Minor), and I have completed 70 credits so far (including my AP credits).

Thanks a lot!

You have to consider that you’ll be starting you social life anew as a junior at these schools — in the end that might hurt your social life rather than amend it. Class sizes are about the same at the schools you’ve listed (with maybe the exception of Amherst and williams). Sounds like you’re applying to schools that overlap in rankings and not much else. I’m a student here, btw, and I really think the social life is what you make of it. I’m overwhelmed by social options every weekend. And I don’t know if we’ve just had completely different professors, but all of mine have put their students first and are passionate about what they do. You have to make your experience at tufts what you want by going out of your way — you can’t sit stagnantly and hope that what you seek will come by itself.

If anything, transferring out of a social perspective probably isn’t the right move. Academically, Tufts will set you up in life for a career in IR/Econ. I don’t think the schools you listed, save Georgetown, have a leg up on tufts for what you’re studying. A lot of my friends are IR and have had great and small classes… don’t know why you think classes are large. Personally, the majority of mine have been <20 people. But, ultimately, the decision is up to you. If you think you’ll have a better social and academic experience going to a new school as a junior, then transfer.

The schools you list admit very few transfer students and they look for an academic reason for transferring, not a social reason. There would be other problems even if admitted: classes at Georgetown will be at least as large as at Tufts; at Columbia you would need to meet the core curriculum requirements.

Many juniors in your field will be spending a year or semester abroad junior year. This can make a transfer in hard socially. But it also offers an opportunity for you to escape Medford for a year. If you don’t like the Talloires program, find another. This could be a chance to make good connections with other Jumbos or to extend yourself into a different circle altogether.

For what you are studying, you are not going to find anything better at the other schools.

Tufts may not be the best fit for you socially, but my hunch is that you can make it work.

If you can transfer to any of your targeted schools listed in the first post in this thread, then do so if affordable. If you need substantial financial aid, then transferring might not be an attractive option–but that will vary from school to school.

Another option to consider in light of your major in international relations is to study abroad for your junior year.

Vanderbilt University is another school to consider as a transfer applicant.

Transferring to the schools that you listed is likely to be a challenge even with your good GPA. It is not obvious to me whether any of the schools that you listed, or any other university, will actually fix the things that you don’t like about Tufts.

You might want to consider taking a semester abroad. Of course that might not solve your issues either, but it would give you a different perspective on the world. Depending upon where you take a semester abroad it might also allow you to practice your French.

I can remember having some rather large classes at a very highly ranked university. I would expect that when you get into your upper years Tufts should have some smaller seminars.

@envisciguy I am so glad to hear that you are having a great experience at Tufts!

Following your points, I do admit that I was not entirely fair to Tufts in my original post, but I do think that IR Department’s reputation is overblown (after all, Tufts IR is known for its “graduate” school, not “undergraduate.”) I still remember sitting with 100+ other students in my Intro to IR class during my freshman year, constantly doubting whether IR is the right path for me. While I thought the class would encourage students to think “outside of the box,” or discuss the materials in depth during the recitations, students were simply asked to “memorize” what the professor taught in the lectures and regurgitate them on our exams. Given the nature of an intro course, I convinced myself that things will only get better and I will have more intellectually stimulating experience onward. I really hoped that my freshman spring and sophomore fall would turn out differently, but I honestly have not had the experience you mention. I even reached out to my advisor for potential academic research/ internship opportunities, but my professor seemed indifferent toward my requests.

What really struck me the most has been the lack of continuation/ academic development after completing an intro to IR class here at Tufts. Yes, the school focuses on “interdisciplinary” and “liberal arts” learning, but the school does not really offer “enough” IR-related courses, other than through three our four courses a semester through the Political Science Department or two through the ExCollege. On the contrary, I was simply struck by the gradual development in the field at institutions such as American, George Washington, and Georgetown in their respective IR departments. Furthermore, most major IR courses are oversubscribed by the juniors and seniors, and I have been only able to take one IR class in its strictest sense this fall (I was even waitlisted for that class and got in later; high demand, low supply). While I enjoyed the course and learned so much out of it, I wish if I had more opportunities to explore the field more in depth as a sophomore. I am not even sure as to whether I will have in-depth academic opportunities even if I become a junior/senior at Tufts. Especially considering that my family is paying full (around ~72k a year) here at Tufts with their tight budget, I want to make sure that my family is making the best financial investment possible in my education. Maybe changing my advisor/ being more active and engaged in the department might help, but there really seems lack of opportunities, when compared to its peer institutions, within the IR department at least from my observation.

As to your comment about the class size, I did intentionally take some Excollege courses here and there along with some seminar courses to see how they would turn out. While these classes were great, I often felt as though there was lack of depth in class discussions (granted, I went to a boarding school in New England that encouraged Harkness discussion). To really gauge how my educational experience has been, I calculated my “average class size” from my freshman fall: Freshman Fall: 65 students, Freshman Spring: 58 students, Sophomore Fall: 28 Students. These figures would not be considered “big” by any means, but my classes still turned out to be a lot bigger than I anticipated, considering that Tufts prides itself as a “liberal arts college” with the resources of a national research university. To Tufts’ credit, I am extremely grateful for their language courses – all my language classes have been smaller than 15 students, and it really encouraged me to practice French both in and outside of the classroom.

To sum all this up, I feel like Tufts does not really have an advantage of a liberal arts college (small class size, engaging professor student relationship, close knit community) and a national research university (breath and width of academic curriculum in IR & Econ). Even though the school claims to have the both ends met, I do feel that the school does not really have a cutting edge in neither areas. When it comes to my social life at Tufts, I wouldn’t say it’s bad, but it’s not good either. It’s very hard for me to explain on this thread, but I have felt very much alone on this campus, even though I have been involved in many clubs and various identity-based organizations. If this makes any sense, a lot of my social interactions here have been on a surface level, at least for me. Maybe this is my personal issue that I need to address before thinking of transferring out, to your credit.

All in all, I learned a ton here at Tufts, and I am so grateful for the opportunities available here. However, a part of me thinks that I can grow more at a liberal arts college or a national research university in its purest sense. This is how I crafted my preliminary list of colleges that I might consider transferring to, for they are known to be the “best” in their respective areas. I am also considering schools like Carleton, Middlebury, Vassar, Reed, Haverford, and Wesleyan, not restricted to the ivy league schools or schools that are ranked highly by the US News (you can see that I did choose Tufts over Cornell, Northwestern, and Wash U as a first-year applicant). Given my GPA, I thought I might as well try before I regret later.

I am happy that you are enjoying your time at Tufts, and I wish you the best. Reading your post, I concluded to give myself a little bit more time next semester and see how things unfold before I decide too quickly.

Thanks a lot!

One thought on advisors… if you are doing some kind of “area studies” concentration within your major, you might find that a prof who teaches some of those courses might be a better advisor and encourage your engagement around the region. Because there are a lot of IR majors, most flock to the profs who teach those specific classes, and the profs are over committed on the advising front. Just a thought. You are clearly a strong student, and my guess is that the right prof would be excited to mentor you.