Singapore v/s US v/s UK! Help me choose! :)

<p>Hi! The-happy-neighborhood-tuna-fish is back with a question! :)</p>

<p>I got into these colleges and programmes. NOW I'm totally confused as to where I should be headed. Some places, I didn't really get in yet, but I'm appealing. So, even if though I probably won't get in (the chances are verrry verrrry low to get through after appealing), I'd request you guys to put this into your ranking as well.</p>

<p>1) NUS (Singapore) (Comp Engg). [with tuition grant, which cuts most of the fee)
2) NTU (Singapore) (Comp Engg+BBA). [same as above]
3) Warwick (UK) (Math+Statistics) [Full Fee]
4) UCL (UK) (Math+Economics) [Full Fee]
5) Kings (UK) (CompSci+Math) [Full Fee]
6) UC Los Angeles (USA) (CompSci and Engineering) [Full Fee]
7) CMU (USA) (MechE) [waitlisted for Comp Engg] [Full Fee]
8) uMich (USA) (MechE) [Full Fee]
9) Purdue (USA) (Comp Engg) [Full Fee]
10) UC Berkeley (USA) (Comp Engg) [Didn't get in, but appealed- so, if by a 1/234737974 chance I do get in, I wouldn't have to ask all over again!] :)</p>

<p>Now, could you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE rank them in order of preference... taking into account the following factors in decreasing order of importance!
Prestige>Starting Salary Averages>Opportunities>Cost>Experience.
Thanks sooo much!!</p>

<p>-tUnA :)</p>

<p>We need a taste of the tuna here :D</p>

<p>What is it that YOU really want? You want a diverse and well rounded education, or you want to concentrate on just your major and get over with it. You want to work in the States later on? How happy are your parents with affording 200k? And most importantly, what sort of engineering are you really intersted in?</p>

<p>I honestly think this is such a brilliant situation to be in…when everybody wants you…great</p>

<p>Okay, how much is full fee at the British universities? I believe that they cost less than American universities. On the other hand, I recently read an article saying something about how 1/4 of all foreign students at British universities were dissatisfied with their experience. That seems rather high. </p>

<p>Here’s a stab at it. Don’t know about universities in your country, but I’ll bet they’re pretty good.
University College London seems great.
UCLA, excellent, probably cheaper than private unis
UMich also excellent
Purdue, fine school, probably a little more money . . . </p>

<p>I’d say take out Warwick (beautiful place though), then put all the choices on a dartboard and throw a dart at it and pick one!</p>

<p>Hi! I’m a UK citizen, living in Singapore who will be going to the US of A for college. Haha.</p>

<p>NUS, and NTU are fantastic universities. They are cheaper and will be looked upon greatly if you decide to work in Singapore or in the rest of Southeast/East Asia. Other than that, most employees won’t know how good the two are.</p>

<p>If you can afford it, here is my list:</p>

<p>UCL (only because I love London)
uMich
UCLA
Warwick
CMU
Purdue
NUS
Kings
NTU</p>

<p>I hate Kings, they rejected me.</p>

<p>@Flibb: I’m looking for a well rounded education. That having been said, I really want to go deep and intensive into what I study. Eg. I’m pretty sure I’d want to do a lot of research in university (I want to dual major in Comp Engg and Finance/Single-major-in Comp Engg). I’m also looking for a place with many opportunities, a fun school- but with focused people. Also, being an international, salaries do matter (cuz US unis cost a fortune when converted to INR) and I’d like to go to a place with good placements. And because I intend to go to grad-school, I guess the prestige matters too. I want to keep myself busy for the next 4 years- crazily busy, even. Yeah- I do intend to work in the states- California, preferably. Parents are OKish with the money, they just want me to make sure I choose the best deal and that it’s worth it. Sort of engineering- Computer Engg. For the places I got into for other engineering fields, I’d try to switch later- if not, I don’t really mind mechanical either. So what say thou? 1 to 10, please rank! :)</p>

<p>@Smartchap: Haha! it’s the best of situations, it’s the worst of situations- I’m really stuck choosing! Sometimes I wish I just got into one school- I wouldn’t have to go BONKERS choosing now. Or that I got into some really really top school (coughMITPrincetoncough)- that would be REAL brilliance! haha! c’mon reply, dude! 1 to 10!! :)</p>

<p>@Endicott: I guess it’s almost the same for internationals (the US and UK fee)- but the courses at UK are 3 year courses- so that saves some money there!). thanks for you insight. what do you think about the singaporean universities- and carnegie mellon? and warwick’s that bad? haha! thanks again!</p>

<p>@Others: C’mon people! it’s RANKING TIME! :)</p>

<p>Haha, what? Warwick is a fantastic university… You need like AAB/ABB at British A-levels to get in, no? A lot of those that go are Oxbridge rejects.</p>

<p>@cdover: that’s exactly what i thought- someone told me it’s the “stanford of europe”-though i guess ABB for a-levels isn’t really exceptional… haha! and thanks for ranking them for me! :slight_smile:
oh- just curious, do you go to a JC or an international school??</p>

<p>@others: 30+ views and so few responses… please respond people! :)</p>

<p>My general impression of SIngaporean universities would be that they would be excellent, especially for something math/science. Not to cater to stereotypes, but Asian school systems have an incredible reputation for turning out brilliant math and science students. So even if one does not know a specific Singaporean university by name, I believe most Americans would assume that they would be great schools. Carnegie Mellon is also very good.</p>

<p>I say choose between U Mich, UCLA and CMU. </p>

<p>You’ve already got in, why settle for something subpar like NUS/NTU.</p>

<p>^^ NTU/NUS are absolutely not subpar. Ask around.</p>

<p>But i second naff’s opinion in that go for the US if you want a really well-rounded education. If you get in at CMU, just pack your bags and RUN! :D</p>

<p>@Endicott: true- i’d definitely agree. but then again, according to many people- even professors at NUS, singapore is still regarded as a source of talented, lower-costed people. so the salaries tend to be lower, right? GIC- being a singaporean company clearly said (in a seminar held by my school) that for the top, front-desk jobs, it DOES not recruit NUS/NTU/SMU people- but goes to top foreign schools. also, the starting salary for an NUS engineer would be around USD 30K (for someone who’s above average). how does this compare to US universities??</p>

<p>@naff: thanks for your response! :slight_smile: which one would you suggest- among the three?</p>

<p>@khan91: hey! i saw a lot of you in the other thread (pakistan thread, right?)- thanks for responding. haha… but is CMU that good? i didn’t get my first choice major there- and do you think transferring to comp engg later is really a possibility? (the CMU rep told me it was almost impossible to make it). could you rank all of them in order of YOUR preference- given the factors most important to me? thanks so much! :)</p>

<p>CMU has name, prestige… which will count for A LOT when you’ll be looking for a job. As for transferring, i really have no idea but listen to what the rep’s telling you/. If CMU isnt feasible, i’d say go to UCLA(USA). Again, name and good in eng/tech from what i’ve seen and heard.</p>

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<p>Yes, they are. Relatively to his list, NTU/NUS/Purdue are all the at the bottom in terms of prestige. </p>

<p>I’ll say…<br>
(1) U Mich
(2) CMU
(3) UCLA/ UCL
(4) Warwick / Kings
(5) Purdue
(6) NTU/NUS </p>

<p>UC Berkeley is on top if you do get in.</p>

<p>Go to Warwick. My two siblings went there, and it’s one of the best universities in England for Maths, second only to Oxbridge. It also has a beautiful campus.</p>

<p>@100%tuna</p>

<p>I really like your name, lol, So random. Um, I go to an international school here. The British school? Tanglin Trust?</p>

<p>ABB at A-level is exceptional :stuck_out_tongue: haha. I don’t know about the Maths+Statistics department at Warwick University, but I know the English department is really hard to get into. My friend had to write 3 extra essays ontop of the personal statement. She’s there now, and got 4 As at A-level. It’s a really good uni.</p>

<p>I’d say if you get into CMU Comp Engg, just go for it…there can’t be a better deal for you :)</p>

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<p>The CMU rep you talked to probably knows best, but, back in the days I was at CMU (ECE), it was not “impossible” to transfer from MechE into ECE. </p>

<p>There is some information on how to transfer at the [First-Year FAQ](<a href=“Page not found! - College of Engineering at Carnegie Mellon University”>Page not found! - College of Engineering at Carnegie Mellon University) on the CIT website (just look for the question: “I want to be in Electrical & Computer Engineering (ECE), but my admissions letter says I am restricted?”).</p>

<p>well ranking these places according to prestige within countries should be a good idea… i guess NUS wins easily in singapore… u mich and CMU in the US and UCL in the UK… I guess prestige and starting salaries should be strongly correlated (correct me if i’m wrong)… and tuna surely you can get a full ride at NUS if you can get into places like CMU with full fee right??</p>