Sisters are telling me: Apply to College of Letters and Science Undeclared.

<p>And then transfer out to College of Engineering if I want to do EECS.</p>

<p>Is there any risk involved with this method? Are there any disadvantages in doing this rather than getting accepted to EECS?</p>

<p>All 3 sisters went to UCB so they know what they're talking about, but I want some more input.</p>

<p>Let's see some stats, perhaps I can be of help. If you are a bit weak overall, I'd say go L&S UD, but if you got strong math and science scores and strong SATs/ACTs, I'd say take the plunge and do EECS.</p>

<p>Yeah, but what's the difference of just going to EECS and doing L&S and transfering?</p>

<p>My planned stats:
SATI: 2300~
SATII: 3X 750~
UCGPA: 4.25
Average EC's for a UC applicant.</p>

<p>i hate when people plan stats...</p>

<p>Well, he asked for stats. And I was being conservative.</p>

<p>yea but its just like foolish lol</p>

<p>have u ever even taken the SAT b4</p>

<p>if u have i will shut up</p>

<p>Yes, I have.</p>

<p>I'm at 2100~ right now and I have over a year to improve just 200 points.</p>

<p>This is a guy that improved 300 points in 2 weeks. 200 points in a year shouldn't be too hard.</p>

<p>lol ok then go for it</p>

<p>sry, it just annoys me when people who do that who havent taken the SAT b4</p>

<p>not so fast....there is no guarantee of a transfer into Engineering. Check with the dept to find the stats, and remember that most transfers into engineering are from junior colleges.</p>

<p>Yes, L&S is "easier" to be accepted into, but transferring into Engineering later ain't easy. PM Sakky for further info.</p>

<p>Thanks. I was thinking something like that too.</p>

<p>Apply as a major in the College of Natural Resources ;)</p>

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And then transfer out to College of Engineering if I want to do EECS.</p>

<p>Is there any risk involved with this method? Are there any disadvantages in doing this rather than getting accepted to EECS?

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<p>Yeah, there is a MAJOR risk. As alluded to above, you run the possibility (heck, in my opinion, the virtual certainty) of not being allowed to transfer into EECS. EECS is arguably the most difficult major to transfer into in all of Berkeley. Lots of Berkeley students, either in the College of Engineering (but not in EECS) or not even in the College of Engineering at all try to transfer into EECS every year, and most of them are denied. </p>

<p>The major advantage of getting admitted into EECS directly is that obviously you secure your place in EECS. Then all you would need to do is pass your classes with a 2.0 and you will get an EECS degree. Doing things the other way, you will need to get high grades in the EECS prereqs to even have a chance of transferring into EECS, and even if you get those grades, you still may not be allowed in, depending on how many EECS slots become available every year. Hence, you will then be stuck majoring in something you don't really want to do. In other words, by getting in as EECS, you have locked in your seat. </p>

<p>Of course, there is also one danger to getting admitted into EECS (or any major in the College of Engineering for that matter). If you're in EECS and you don't do well, you may be barred from leaving EECS because of your poor grades. Transferring into L&S is not automatic. You have to have decent grades or you will be denied. Because of the difficulty of engineering, a lot of Berkeley engineering students do not get decent grades. So you might be be doing poorly enough in EECS that you want to leave, but your poor grades prevent you from leaving EECS. You can only transfer out if you have good grades, but if you have good grades, you have little reason to transfer out anyway. Quite a Catch-22.</p>