<p>I think that since there is no early pressing deadline for UVA, this site is really slow. Anyone agree?</p>
<p>Agreed. I have been thinking a lot about those applicants who really want to go to UVA and who are on the bubble there as far as getting in. It is no secret that chances at other fine schools seem to be enhanced by apply ED. If you are on the bubble at UVA RD, I wonder whether those kids will sit back and apply RD to all schools and lose the benefit of their ED edge elsewhere in exchange for the possibility of getting into UVA? It is a very tough decision for those whose hearts prefer to be in C-Ville. Thank goodness D is a first year and did not have to make that choice. She was the last of the ED years and is thrilled to have applied ED and been accepted.</p>
<p>I am kinda in the same situation you mention john. If UVA had ED, I probably would have applied for it. But since it doesn't, I applied to Michigan early response (through rolling), and though it isn't binding, it still gives you an edge to apply early. Now that I have gotten in, there are a lot of incentives to respond to that decision before May 1st, such as placement in the Residential College, etc. I definitely haven't made up my mind yet, and I am certainly still applying to UVA, but I too wonder about UVA giving away a competitive edge to other schools, who maintain ED/EA plans.</p>
<p>In Nova the thinking is better to apply ED to a school in order to get the stress over with and avoid the UVa lotto. Some folks feels that the mission has changed relative to admissions so even people who would not have been on the ED or RD bubble last yearare playing roulette by waiting on their UVa chances. One fear I have heard circulating is that a person with lesser credentials will be admitted over a student with a better package in order to achieve the goal of financial diversity. I think there was an article in the NY Times about this. If my memory serves it was written by Stanford's Dean of Admissions.</p>
<p>Anyone have the link? I would appreciate it.</p>
<p>The only thing I will mention for those still considering UVA is that to this day, and after three generations of family members who have attended (or who are attending) I have yet to meet or hear of anyone who did not love going to UVA. That says a whole lot about the school in my book.</p>
<p>vistany: don't have the link, but i know exactly what you are talking about. IMO, the best students should get admitted. not to say that people who have faced several obstacles shouldn't be given a break, but, i dunno, i just wish there was a fairer way to do it. </p>
<p>john: i definitely agree with you on that one. i know a lot of ppl who go there, and few regret it.</p>
<p>I'm instate and UVA is most definitely my first choice. I visited there last week and when I came home I couldn't fall asleep at night because I kept thinking about it! I think I read on this site that you'll know what school is right for you when you walk on the campus and you just feel IT. I actually did not get that "feeling" on the campus but rather when I was miles away. It was when I got out of my car and took the lonesome path to my door when I knew...what am I doing here, when I should be there?! </p>
<p>Anyway, that fact that UVA doesn't have the ED anymore doesn't stop me from applying there RD...or anywhere else ED for that matter. I'm not sure what to say on the fact that students with lesser credentials will be accepted over others...I guess it depends how you look at it.</p>
<p>"I'm not sure what to say on the fact that students with lesser credentials will be accepted over others.."</p>
<p>I agree, I think we all just have to sit back and watch what happens with this cycle of applications/admissions.</p>
<p>Glad to hear that you liked it though!</p>
<p>The University of Virginia is an honored member of the club of single-deadline (regular admission round only) colleges. </p>
<p>University</a> of Virginia, Harvard, & Princeton Admission Presentations </p>
<p>I think it shows a lot of class for Virginia to join with Princeton and Harvard, truly peer institutions of Virginia this year, in spending November recruiting more students instead of poring over early applications. Best wishes to the student applying to what is likely to be Virginia's strongest and most economically diverse class ever.</p>
<p>"honored member"? How did you come to the conclusion that UVa is honored by Harvard and Princeton?</p>
<p>IMO a state school should not follow the path of private institutions. UVa is the second largest line item on the Commonwealth of Virginia's budget after roads. If you take a dollar of state money you should not follow the path of private ivy's because you expected that others would be doing the same. As I said this is my opinion but I disagree with this option for UVa. Early Action single choice would have been the more equitable choice. This would have given the economically disadvantaged many months to determine what the financial packages really meant.</p>
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<p>Because I read this article </p>
<p>The</a> Harvard Crimson :: Opinion :: New Possibilities in the Post-Early Admissions Era </p>
<p>by the dean of admissions and financial aid at Harvard. </p>
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<p>I must have missed the part in the article about how Harvard is honored to have UVa as it's new BFF. Interestingly the decision was made before this book was published which discussed how corrupt (forgiving) Harvard and other admission processes were for the large donor. IMO it is more a case of misery loves company. If this is such a grand idea why isn't Dartmouth, Brown, and Yale part of the mix? Blackburn admitted he thought others would follow suit. He was wrong, the trend stopped with him. Why do you suppose that is?</p>
<p>Is it me, or do you find it interesting that Al Gores son, a C student, who was both expelled and arrested before he was admitted at Harvard actually got in? This book covers other similarly situated debacles including Princeton and Duke. Every chapter is devoted to the insider trading in the named University that is tied to large donor admissions. As I stated earlier Single Choice Early Action has proven to be more legitimate in terms of helping the needy.</p>
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<p>There is still a comparison group. It is called Yale and Stanford. We'll see how they do. The whole admissions community is watching.</p>
<p>The comparison Group of Yale and Stanford has been in place for quite some time. The Dean of Admissions of Stanfored blasted H&P for making this decision in an NY Times Op-Ed piece. Very compelling and valid arguements.</p>
<p>If you are poor (and or 1st generation to college) having a few months to figure out all of your options is a heck of a lot easier and fairer (imo) than having 4 weeks in April to decide. It's been more than a year since PH&UVa made the change. I haven't heard of anyone joining them have you? Obviously the majority disagrees.</p>
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<p>Are you referring to the article by Stanford's provost? He is a world-famous logician, and I don't dispute the steps in his reasoning, but I do dispute the factual premises underlying his arguments, which he took on trust from statements from his admission office. The way to check to see whether those premises are true is to give an independent researcher access to Stanford's admission files.</p>
<p>Believe me, I am not here to defend any of them, the fact remains that Harvard had a second agenda for doing this and UVa ended up looking like an also ran.</p>
<p>Private institutions can, imo, do what they want. Its private money, not tax dollars. Publics otoh should not position themselves to be "me too" players. The mission and funding are not equal. When you take public dollars you should handle them for the greater good, not untried social experiments like searching the nation for those who might not otherwise consider these Universities.</p>
<p>Okay, vistany, then I see why you are concerned about this. But I thought it has already been reported in news media that Virginia's public funding is shrinking so much that it has considered going private. And while reasonable minds can differ about how the publicly funded universities in the state of Virginia allocate their funds, I don't think it's deplorable to have more poor students attend a publicly subsidized college rather than more well-off students.</p>
<p>Token, as I stated UVa is the second largest line item on the state budget. We are talking about very large dollars -- tax payer funding btw.</p>
<p>There is no reason why public employees of a state institution, and ultimately that is what UVa is, need to jump on the band wagon of a social experiment championed by private institutions. What would be the cost of waiting to see the results of eliminating ED vs EA single choice? There was no urgency other than vanity. Which is to say they are attempting to be part of an ivy undertaking with taxpayer funds.</p>
<p>The money they spend traipsing around (mostly out of state), could have put some poor kids on full scholarship at UVa.</p>
<p>Foolish IMO. </p>
<p>In fact I would be willing to argue that they won't achieve anything that would not have been achieved by electronic means using college board files and an offer of money to poor kids.</p>
<p>If someone could tell me how to quote others in my response I would be grateful.T/y</p>
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