So.......anyone really think they'll get in?

<p>Yup, if you want to have any chance of getting in! </p>

<p>Haha :)</p>

<p>I'm practically a shoe-in at the most selective university in the world.</p>

<p>/sarcasm</p>

<p>I rolled a one!!</p>

<p>Two things: </p>

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<li><p>waitn184, how do you not fall in one of the categories? Wouldn't students with Middle-Eastern backgrounds be considered Asian? </p></li>
<li><p>Is is "shoe-in" or "shoo-in", as I've heard compelling arguments for both lol?</p></li>
</ol>

<ol>
<li><p>Middle-eastern = caucasian</p></li>
<li><p>[url=<a href="http://www.wsu.edu/%7Ebrians/errors/shoe-in.html%5Dshoe-in%5B/url"&gt;http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/shoe-in.html]shoe-in[/url&lt;/a&gt;] -- should be shoo-in</p></li>
</ol>

<p>And um I think I'll get in...hopefully. H-bomb has taken one kid from my school (class size of 700-800) from each of the past two years, and I'm a stronger academic/extracurricular profile than either with major hooks--sports is my Achilles heel though. Plus, I better get in because Yale, Princeton, and MIT seem to hate my school :( Both kids that got into Harvard were also the only two to get Dartmouth likely letters, so I think I'm on track.</p>

<p>Notice this, though....</p>

<p>Harvard took 26+ from New Hampshire last year.
Princeton took 4.
Penn took 2 or 4 (can't remember).
I bet Yale took around that number too...</p>

<p>And our state has Phillips Exeter and St. Paul's! Uncanny? Regionalfavoritismmuch?!</p>

<p>True story: if you dream that you get in (and it's a good dream), you'll most-likely be accepted. (And like most types of logical reasoning, the converse isn't necessarily true)</p>

<p>Actually, everything I've dreamed about has NEVER COME TRUE. It's been proven. </p>

<p>That's why I always get sad when I have a great dream about Johnny Depp, for example.</p>

<p>I dreamt that I got into Stanford, must I get in now?</p>

<p>hmmm I had many dreams that I got into Yale and it happened!</p>

<p>I''m thankful that I even have a chance here, considering what a small percentage of people in the world are able to receive higher education at all. I think everyone on here will be successful in whatever they do because it's clear that they care about their future.</p>

<p>^ Most of my dreams came true. Pity I never dreamed of getting into Harvard.</p>

<p>I dreamt I got into Stanford last night as well. Not that it means anything. I still haven't made out with Caleb Followill despite the recurring dreams. Sigh.</p>

<p>Middle Eastern is not white if you say "other- Lebanese" on the common app, and show your pride in your nationality with Essays/ Extracurricular. I guess you are supposed to put "white", but I do not think I am white; If I was white, I would not end up in "random screening" at every airport. If I was white, I would live a different lifestyle and go through different experiences. So I do not know why they do not have, at least, a Middle Eastern section on the common app/ other forms! It definitely drives me crazy. It is kind of like they are not acknowledging our diversity as a person by listing us as "white". </p>

<p>In fact, much of the Lebanese population (christians like myself) are VERY different then the rest of the Arab world. We follow a different ideology/ culture; for this reason, we do not like to be called Arabs (I do not mind so much). In the world view, that makes us very diverse in comparison to other countries. We are one of the few in the Middle East with a more moderate/western lifestyle and that have actually been affected by the instability of peace in the region. </p>

<p>I do not believe in AA (URM or any minority). I know that if I get accepted, there will be several applicants out there more deserving of my spot. But since they do follow AA, I would be very upset if a less qualified URM took my spot because I feel I am more diverse than the typical URM (race-wise).</p>

<p>And we are not overrepresented. There are only about 10 Lebanese students in all of Harvard College (I asked someone in the Harvard Alumni Club, but I find this hard to believe).</p>

<p>Haha, I tried to research the shoe-in vs. shoo-in thing too before posting, but I couldn't get a definitive answer.</p>

<p>lol. no. </p>

<p>10char</p>

<p>I am pretty sure it is shoo-in. I read an article on some news site which used "shoo-in". But then again, the news is not always right.</p>

<p>In my post, I meant Harvard Arab Alumni Club (HAAA) and not the Harvard Alumni Club*</p>

<p>about the lebanese thing... I feel the same way, waitn184</p>

<p>About the screening this. The three people in my family that get is the most are my husband (Italian), my mother (pale elderly silver haired WASP), and my daughter (1/2 italian and 1/2 wasp but pale with blue eyes). Don't take offense. Many people are screened besides someone that might appear Arab.</p>

<p>As for the 10 Lebanese people at Harvard. Maybe there are 10 Lebanese that feel that it is necessary to label themselves as such. D is not applying to schools as an Italian. If someone had to try and tell you the number of Italians at Harvard, how would the know a number? Harvard would only know the number of individuals that labeled themselves as Italian - a smaller subset of the true total. If my premise is correct, you may be pleasantly surprised by the number of Lebanese.</p>

<p>Anyhow, I do commend you on keeping active with your heritage. My husband is a member of a club of Italian-American's who all immigrated to the US from that same small town. It is nice to remember that history. It is so recent. In contrast, my family has been in the USA so many generations that there are no stories from outside the US.</p>

<p>Getting accepted to Harvard = impossible^infinity</p>

<p>The SAT ended any hope of Ivy League admission and then my GPA put the last nail in the coffin. Why did I apply? Common app makes it too easy...and the fact that my parents paid for all the application fees didn't hurt either.</p>

<p>I should have claimed Jamaican as an ethnicity (my dad's Jamaican). but I suppose that's not really an ethnicity, its only a nationality.</p>