So I'm at the ugli...

<p>I'm studying at the ugli and I've got three big tests next week. I'm gonna be here for the next 4 hrs!</p>

<p>Advice to prospective students: You might think UMich is "easy to get into" or a safety, but, if you do come here, be prepared to work your ass off.</p>

<p>I have to miss a concert for an exam, and i have an exam from 8-10 on Halloween. I have projects due every week. Yes, you work your ass off here.</p>

<p>Yeah I have an exam at the same time on Halloween. Sucks.</p>

<p>I didn't think it was easy to get into...</p>

<p>Obviously you have to work but then again think about what you're paying for. </p>

<p>Also, by trying to stay cool about it is an easy way to cope; even if it seems like things suck, you'll be happier to work hard and then act like you didn't.</p>

<p>That's why a Michigan education is so respected. The professors, who are among the smartest and most accomplished in the world, have stratospheric expectations. As some have pointed out, getting into Michigan is not as hard as getting into the Ivies and other peer insititutions, but the quality of the student body at Michigan is hard to match and the expectations of the faculty are very high. In short, you are studying with the best and being taught by the best.</p>

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In short, you are studying with the best and being taught by the best.

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dont they say that about every school? lol</p>

<p>this is way too much work...</p>

<p>Mojojojo, I am sure many colleges and universities make such claims, but only 50 or so LACs, private and public universities combined can truly make such a claim.</p>

<p>do other top schools like the ivies, uchicago, northwestern, etc., get as much as work as we do? i can't imagine..</p>

<p>I'm sure the workload here at umich is equal to or even greater than most of the top schools. Everyone I know here studies hard and always does their work.</p>

<p>I studied till 3 AM last night...so stressful.</p>

<p>Michigan has been associated with roughly 20 Nobel Prize winners. With the exception of Cal, Chicago, Columbia, Harvard, and MIT, 20 is pretty much in line with other top research universities (Caltech Cornell, Penn, Princeton, Stanford, UIUC and Yale) have all been affiliated with 15-30 Nobel Prize Winners). </p>

<p>However, only one of those 20 Nobel Prize Winners affiliated to Michigan was an active member of the faculty at Michigan at the time that he won the Nobel Prize (Martinus Veltman, professor Emreritus). That is not a necessarily a bad thing. Schools like Brown, Dartmouth and Duke have had close to 0 affiliation to Nobel Prize winners. Furthermore, most Nobel Prize winners get the prize toward the end of their career, when they are no longer able to effectively teach undergrads. Besides, most Nobel Prizes have been awarded in the fields of Chemistry and Physics, where Michigan has never really been a top 5 or 6 program. </p>

<p>At any rate, here is a list of Nobel Prize winners affiliated to Michigan (indicates their affiliation):</p>

<p>Joseph Brodsky, 1987, Literature (Visting Professor and Poet-in-Residence at Michigan from 1972-1976)
Stanley Cohen, 1986, Medicine (completed graduate studies at Michigan)
Peter Debye, 1936, Chemistry (Visiting Lecturer)
Enrico Fermi, 1938, Physics (Visting Professor)
Donald Glaser, 1960, Physics (Professor at Michigan from 1949-1959)
Charles Huggins, 1966, Medicine (Michigan Medical Intern and then Professor 1924-1927)
Jerome Karle, 1985, Chemistry (completed graduate studies at Michigan)
Lawrence Klein, 1980, Economics (Professor at Michigan from 1944-1954)
Czeslaw Milosz, 1980, Literature (Honorary PhD, 1977)
Marshall Nirenberg, 1968, Medicine (completed graduate studies at Michigan)
Wolfgang Pauli, 1945, Physics (Visting Professor througout the early 1930s)
David Politzer, 2004, Physics (completed his undergraduate studies at Michigan)
Peyton Rous, 1966, Medicine (Instructor at the Medical School, 1905-1907)
Richard Smalley, 1996, Chemistry (completed his undergraduate studies at Michigan)
Hamilton O. Smith, 1978, Medicine (Professor and Researcher at Michigan, 1962-1967)
Samuel Ting, 1976, Physics (completed his undergraduate and graduate studies at Michigan)
Charles Townes, 1964, Physics (Visting professor throughout the mid 1950s)
Martinus Veltman, 1999, Physics (Professor at Michigan, 1980-present)
Thomas Weller, 1954, Medicine (completed his undergraduate and graduate studies at Michigan)
Carl Wieman, 2001, Phyics (Professor and research at Michigan, 1978-1985)</p>

<p>I'd say Michigan workload is pretty heavy, but not as heavy as schools like Chocago or Swarthmore or Caltech. However, it is comparable to places like Cornell, Johns Hopkins and Northwestern.</p>

<p>Personally, I think I have more homework this year than I did as a freshman, but I like the classes/subjects that I'm taking so it's all right.</p>

<p>Freshman year was difficult because of all the adjustments to college life, the campus, new people, and the new expectations that need to be met in the homework and on tests. That is a big plus about this year for me. I don't have any adjustments to make. :)</p>

<p>I have a friend at the University of Chicago and he's got it a lot worse than we do.</p>

<p>Yes, Chicago is pretty tough. That's one of the many things I love about Michigan. The academics are tough, but they still afford undergrads the time to relax, mingle and socialize. Chicago, Caltech, MIT and many of the LACs literally drown their students in work that it is virtually impossible for them to interact with each other socially.</p>

<p>I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid, but with my current workload, I have very little free time. It seems like I'm always doing some work.</p>

<p>But, hopefully, it'll all be worth it.</p>

<p>I agree with Maguo1 with not taking orgo, great books, and calc 3 together eventhough every honors kid does.</p>

<p>Man up, nancy boy.</p>

<p>i have very little free time as well. i'm either in class, doing hw, meeting together with group projects, doing clubs (i'm only involved with 2), eating, going to the gym, or meeting a friend. i'm a new transfer student, so it's quite socially demanding as well, trying to get to know new people and meeting them. what i noticed here though is that you tend to study a lot with your friends, so i guess that's a good thing :]</p>