<p>Who's the smart one here?</p>
<p>well, I think that one reason why it might be a good idea to contact questbridge is because otherwise, she might be inclined to lie on her college apps. I mean her rationale would probably be: "Well, it worked for a scholarship...why not for college?" I think that if she is caught now, it will deter her from lying on college apps, and in the end, you may be saving her from the humiliation of a rescinded application. She would be devastated if she didn't get into her top college because she added a few extra working hours, but would have gotten in if she hadn't.<br>
Thank about that.</p>
<p>You shouldn't report her simply for the fact that it's not your place to do so. Talk to her about it and tell her how you feel but don't turn her in. Her business is her business, so you should keep your nose out of it. It'll all catch up with her at some point anyway, maybe not about Questbridge specifically, but at some point she'll get what's coming to her.</p>
<p>"her business is her business"- </p>
<p>so if someone steals, its not your business</p>
<p>in college if you know about cheating and don't report it, it can get you in trouble, need to change your mindset</p>
<p>and if caought lying on a college app, well....</p>
<p>Citygirlsmom, if someone stole something which belonged to me, it becomes my business. If someone steals something from a store, it's not my business. The original poster's friend didn't steal her car or CD player. She "stole" (in the loosest sense of the word) from an organization. Thus, it's not her business. She should of course confront her friend if she feels it is necessary but should absolutely not report her to the scholarship organization.</p>
<p>1) confront her and get all the facts</p>
<p>2) be a true friend and tell questbridge. Life is hard, but you shouldn't get into a pattern of getting by with dishonesty.</p>
<p>This is the most ridiculous bull I've ever read in the history of the internet.</p>
<p>You are seriously even CONSIDERING (though I don't think you were) calling some COMPANY (its not like its a charity or something), to tell them that someone you have known for YEARS didn't work as much as she should have? WELCOME TO AMERICA! You will grow lonely, pitiful and cold, and when you get old you'll be posting on teenagers message boards giving them advice to wind up in the position you will be in, lonesome. Not to mention the fact that chances are that:</p>
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<li><p>They aren't going to give the scholarship to someone else. They at WORST will just take it from her and keep the money. Why would they waste more money going back through apps just to give away more of their money? Again, this is still a business.</p></li>
<li><p>If they miraculously do give it to someone else, who the hell is to say this person didn't fib (and theres a high chance they have)? Then you have screwed a friend and accomplished nothing.</p></li>
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<p>There's not many things I wont do in this world, but intentionally harming a friend, someone who has trusted you and confides in you and is always there for you, is despicable. It is just to satisfy your own anger at not getting accepted. Maybe you didn't wanna attend there, but if not why is this bothering you? Thats bull to say that your truly THIS worried about someone not getting a scholarship that they should have (which, who's to say they didnt even LOOK at those parts of her app). It seems like your ego is a bit bruised because you didnt get accepted, it happens to all of us, there's no need to bring someone down with you.</p>
<p>"so if someone steals, its not your business"</p>
<p>That's why we have cops.</p>
<p>"Boy, do we have low standards for our friendships....to still call this lying little twit a friend is astonishing, she lied and potentially hurt you or other people"</p>
<p>LMAO what? She didn't even want the damn thing. In fact, if anything the OP is hurting more people by taking up a spot for NO REASON in the applicant pool. Had he won it and not used it then it would have been even worse, and how many times do these things happen? Countless times.</p>
<p>"That is not someone who would remain my friend at all, I couldn't trust her, for if she is willing to o something that could hurt you with her lies, who knows what else she is capable of for her own self interest"</p>
<p>LMAO. I actually laughed when I saw this. I guess if I lie about my age on the internet i should lose my friends too. Where do you draw the line? what you are basically saying is for her to be flawless. I mean besides lying and cheating, theres only really murder and thievery left that embodies most sins people make anyway.</p>
<p>"Report her. She has to learn sooner or later (sooner better than later) that she can't live life like this. It's not fair for the people who are more deserving."</p>
<p>!? You don't know her yet you are making all these snap judgements because she told this small of a fib on an app that I can guarantee didn't give her this HUGE competitve edge. I'm sure there are many qualified candidates that weren't accepted or chose not to even use it.</p>
<p>Seriously I don't see how you people even go to school without getting beat down everyday.</p>
<p>finanly, someone that isn't living in some fairy tale. i put friendship above most anything else, and to even question selling out your friend over something as petty as this amazes me. even more so, the number of people who agree they would do the same thing.</p>
<p>Just talk to your friend first and see how she responds.</p>
<p>"You are seriously even CONSIDERING (though I don't think you were) calling some COMPANY (its not like its a charity or something), to tell them that someone you have known for YEARS didn't work as much as she should have? WELCOME TO AMERICA! You will grow lonely, pitiful and cold, and when you get old you'll be posting on teenagers message boards giving them advice to wind up in the position you will be in, lonesome. Not to mention the fact that chances are that:"</p>
<p>Welcome to America! It's called trying to change the world instead of being stagnant in its idiocy.</p>
<p>"1. They aren't going to give the scholarship to someone else. They at WORST will just take it from her and keep the money. Why would they waste more money going back through apps just to give away more of their money? Again, this is still a business."</p>
<p>Well, better to keep it than to give it to a dishonest person.</p>
<p>"2. If they miraculously do give it to someone else, who the hell is to say this person didn't fib (and theres a high chance they have)? Then you have screwed a friend and accomplished nothing."</p>
<p>There is a high chance that they did considering the OP is in many of the same activities and would know whether this person has a leadership position or not. Did you read the first post? No, I don't think you did.</p>
<p>"There's not many things I wont do in this world, but intentionally harming a friend, someone who has trusted you and confides in you and is always there for you, is despicable. It is just to satisfy your own anger at not getting accepted. Maybe you didn't wanna attend there, but if not why is this bothering you? Thats bull to say that your truly THIS worried about someone not getting a scholarship that they should have (which, who's to say they didnt even LOOK at those parts of her app). It seems like your ego is a bit bruised because you didnt get accepted, it happens to all of us, there's no need to bring someone down with you."</p>
<p>It's not intentionally harming a friend. It's called teaching them dishonesty doesn't go. I'm sorry, but sometimes it's better to do the right thing than to be friends with a dishonest person. It's not to satisfy one's own anger at being accepted -- someone else probably lost the scholarship because of this dishonest person and it's time for justice. The OP isn't bringing someone down with them -- stop making ridiculous assumptions. You're just angry that someone picked doing the right thing over being friends with a liar.</p>
<p>"LMAO what? She didn't even want the damn thing. In fact, if anything the OP is hurting more people by taking up a spot for NO REASON in the applicant pool. Had he won it and not used it then it would have been even worse, and how many times do these things happen? Countless times."</p>
<p>What? Uh, hello, of course they wanted it -- that's why they lied. OP is doing the right thing by calling up QuestBridge.</p>
<p>"LMAO. I actually laughed when I saw this. I guess if I lie about my age on the internet i should lose my friends too. Where do you draw the line? what you are basically saying is for her to be flawless. I mean besides lying and cheating, theres only really murder and thievery left that embodies most sins people make anyway."</p>
<p>Lying about your age on the internet and lying to win a SCHOLARSHIP are different. There is money involved with the latter. The line is drawn when that dishonesty is used to acquire material goods unfairly -- it's called STEALING. Welcome to America! Where people like you tell others that stealing is okay!</p>
<p>"!? You don't know her yet you are making all these snap judgements because she told this small of a fib on an app that I can guarantee didn't give her this HUGE competitve edge. I'm sure there are many qualified candidates that weren't accepted or chose not to even use it."</p>
<p>She lied -- she doesn't deserve it. Try again, sometime, kay?</p>
<p>"Seriously I don't see how you people even go to school without getting beat down everyday."</p>
<p>We don't hang around with people like you, that think lying is okay because "everyone else is doing it". The bandwagon argument died 10 years ago, buddy. Grow up.</p>
<p>Leave it alone. People like that get what they deserve at some point or another. What goes around comes around, and that's always true. Don't worry about it, just be glad you are honest :)</p>
<p>It's the choice between the right thing and the easy thing. </p>
<p>And people like hyakku, please refrain from trying to justify your own actions of cheating/lying by defending others. It's an effective defense mechanism to be sure, but you have to admit it is unscrupulous. Unless, of course, you really don't think cheating/lying is a big deal.</p>
<p>To OP: Ultimately, it comes down to your values. What kind of a life do you want to live? As you reflect upon your life on your death bed (hopefully), would you be happy with what you are? What you have done, what you haven't done? </p>
<p>The thing is, society isn't necessarily going to punish those people have have lied to gain things like scholarships and acceptances. It's not so much about doing someone a favor or fearing punishment, but about living your life the way you see fit.</p>
<p>Just my $0.02</p>
<p>It's not a matter of bringing justice to her dishonest friend. There is no justice involved in selling out her friend (and it is selling out her friend). I think it's great to be idealistic and reach for justice in all actions, but the change should start from within. As long as the OP leads her own life with honesty and integrity, that is all that matters. Getting into her friend's business only will undermine her own moral behavior and bring her more unhappiness. She should 100% confront the friend but absolutely should not report her. I find it fascinating that so many people share the idea that this sort of vigilante justice is a good thing.</p>
<p>Let it be - this isn't your place.</p>
<p>seashoresideshow: So all witnesses to a crime are "vigilantes," huh? Vigilante justice would be killing her friend to punish her for stealing. Reporting her lies to the interested institution is being a witness - she is not suggesting that she herself has the right to take disciplinary action against her friend. The two are hardly the same things.</p>