Socioeconomic class and college success

<p>Not aware of extra fees imposed on intls, as part of the college billing.</p>

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<p>That fee is charged through the college and yes, it’s a fee US students don’t have to pay so yes, they are paying more.</p>

<p>How charged through the college? In some places, it’s required for the app.</p>

<p>cobrat - what fee? I do not see it any where.</p>

<p>All schools require proof of support per US immigration. Putting money in escrow is a proof of support.</p>

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<p>Actually, that’s pretty standard for many undergrad colleges as well.</p>

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What fee, cobrat? Can you provide any evidence that any international was/is required to pay a fee for their undergraduate education over and above any fee required of US residents?? You have provided no evidence-- just again the supposed comments from random friends or relatives. I have never heard of such a thing, and if it does exist, any proof of it would be appreciated/expected. Otherwise, its hogwash.</p>

<p>We are talking about undergrads here. People are pulling in stories of grad/med school, which is a different issue altogether.</p>

<p>You need to direct us to a UG that charges for this. ICE has regulations re: how far in advance (before the semester begins) kids can apply for the visa- some schools provide the I-20 after the verification of funds and admission. I am not aware they charge.
As for Weill, stands to reason they need to see funds- can’t easily replace a med stu with a transfer.</p>

<p>Well that’s true- they emphasize how they dont really do transfers. But four years in advance is extreme. Given their high admissions requirements I think the probability of getting anyone with those scores who also has a spare $200K seems unlikely. Must be State sponsorships. Maybe patrons.</p>

<p>Perhaps Weill has been burned in some way enough times that they imposed a “pay to hold your spot” rule for internationals.</p>

<p>Back to undergrads, some schools offer tuition waivers or allow some students to pay the instate rather than out of state fee. <a href=“http://blog.iefa.org/2012/08/tuition-waivers-for-international-students.html[/url]”>http://blog.iefa.org/2012/08/tuition-waivers-for-international-students.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Maybe these internationals are confused and are claiming the “extra fee” is the expectation to pay the out-of-state fee??</p>

<p>I did some fumbling around the internet and did see on a list of various potential additional fees for students at a school (a list which included service/usage fees such as for the cost of replacing ID cards, bounced checks, use of practice rooms and other service/processing fees) an administrative fee (around $145) for processing non-immigrant visas. So it appears to be a fee to cover a service, not some random surcharge fee imposed merely because a student is an international.</p>

<p>Additionally in order to issue an I-20, which is needed to obtain an F-1 student visa, the school is required by the United States government to maintain records that demonstrate that students have the funds necessary to cover their cost of attendance for the first year of study. This takes staff, time, and ergo money.</p>

<p>Shhh, you’re contradicting one of cobrat’s many friends and relatives who discuss all sorts of topics with him.</p>

<p>Hmmm… the movie Sybil is beginning to run through my mind as I think about these varied friends and cousins…</p>

<p>Here’s a US Department of Education report on merit aid: <a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012160.pdf[/url]”>http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012160.pdf&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

<p>What are the salient parts of this report, periwinkle?</p>

<p>I found this quote interesting:</p>

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<p>And this in the environment of rising college costs.</p>

<p>Even more interesting, the average amount of the need based grant was lower than the average amount of merit based grant in 2007-8 for both public and private institutions.</p>

<p>The report compares 2007-8 to 1995-6. More students, overall, are receiving aid. Merit aid levels vary by public, private, and (most interesting to me) by region. Mid-Atlantic and southern states award more merit aid (page 12). </p>

<p>To return to the OP, we should not make far-ranging conclusions based on three personal stories. I found this page at the College Board: [Cumulative</a> Debt Levels of Students Who First Enrolled in 2003-04 by Attainment and Sector | Trends in Higher Education](<a href=“Trends in Higher Education – College Board Research”>Trends in Higher Education – College Board Research).

In my opinion, we shouldn’t assume that all students receiving need-based aid take on as much debt as the Emory student in the NYT article. Some might, but we shouldn’t make decisions based on the most indebted 2%.</p>

<p>Usually we tell kids they can’t get 60k in loans by themselves- or am I getting something wrong, missing some detail from the story? That’s what I meant about the unfair.</p>

<p>[International</a> Students: Prepare for Additional College Fees - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/2012/09/27/international-students-prepare-for-additional-college-fees]International”>http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/2012/09/27/international-students-prepare-for-additional-college-fees)</p>

<p>How many international students remain in the US after college or grad school? Or more precisely, what portion of the whole? Entry to life in the US is not a negligible benefit.</p>

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<p>The boyfriend Fred, who the Times writer doesnt seem to like, co-signed for her</p>