Southern Sensibility ?

<p>I'm dead serious. If you are an SCV member, you will get in this college as long as your credentials are strong enough for admissions.</p>

<p>There is a big difference that the majority of W&L students are Sons and Daughters of the COnfedederacy and that all applicants who can prove such ancestry are automatically admitted. Quite frankly, you are not Academy material....</p>

<p>Why's it that people tend to equate conservative with racist?</p>

<p>Perhaps it's due to a good majority of conservatives are anti any social program?</p>

<p>The words southern and sensible should never be used in the same sentence!</p>

<p>Momray
my politics teacher taught my class that the majority of those on welfare are white</p>

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I'm dead serious. If you are an SCV member, you will get in this college as long as your credentials are strong enough for admissions.

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I would hope that holds true for any college in the country. I would hate to see a college rejecting people with strong enough credentials just because they're SCV.</p>

<p>what's the number of the company to call to get our beds lifted?</p>

<p>Just call W&L (540-458-8600 though I'm not completely sure about the last four digits) and ask to talk with facilities management.</p>

<p>WL2011 - You may not need to. Most beds are already lofted by the time you get there. If not, sometimes you can 'trade' lofts with people, or something of the sort. Remember, someone lived in there last year and they had to make it livable too..</p>

<p>I went to the KA party at UC Berkeley...yes, people dressed up, and no, it's not a big deal. It's a costume party. Get over it.</p>

<p>My great grandfather was a confederate soldierr ,HE WAS NOT A NAZI NOR WERE HIS MEN MADAME. Neither where Jewish comrades in arms Judah Benjamin CSA Secretary of State and Bernard Baruchs (a CSA Physician) father. and Sir Moses Ezekiel creator of the Confederate Monumnet at Arlington.Yes he was southern soldier a member of the 27th Vrginia Infantry.CSA part of the Stonewall Brigade. Well I guess that makes me a kind of moron or yahoo cracker does it not? Yes I respect the old Southern cross though I do not believe it belongs on public buildings. People should not call someone anti Semitic names or use the N word but because I revere thold Southern cross(yes madame it is the Southern Cross not the Statrs and bars which is the First national Flag. it is ok to call me a moron or cracker is it not. No double standard there.
Late in life, Joshua Chamberlain, the Union hero who won the Medal of Honor for holding Little Round Top when Lee sent the Texans to turn Meade's flank on the second day at Gettysburg, said that whenever he saw that flag, it recalled to him the indomitable courage of the men who had fought under it. I guess the descendant's of those men have nothing to be proud of mere morons Most likely explains why he was friends with Judah Benjamin and Bernard Baruchs (a CSA Physician) father. Yes he was southern soldier a member of the 27th Vrginia Infantry.CSA part of the Stonewall Brigade. Well I guess that makes me a kind of moron or yahoo cracker does it not? Yes I respect the old Southern cross though I do not believe it belongs on public buildings. People should not call me anti Semitic names but because I revere the old Southern cross it is ok to call me a moron or cracker is it not. No double standard there.
Late in life, General Joshua Chamberlain, the Union hero who won the Medal of Honor for holding Little Round Top when Lee sent the Texans to turn Meade's flank on the second day at Gettysburg, said that whenever he saw that flag, it recalled to him the indomitable courage of the men who had fought under it. I guess the descendents of those men have nothing to be proud of mere morons</p>

<p>At least the south was not openly anti Semitic like the Union,Sherman and Grant and old Abe.
Yes only Jewish military cemetery outside of Israel is in Richmond,CSA graveyard.Who designed the confederate monument yep a Confederate Jew Moses Eziekel. Grant on the other hand issued the following</p>

<p>La Grange, Tenn., November 9, 1862
Major-General Hurlbut, Jackson, Tenn.:
Refuse all permits to come south of Jackson for the present. The Israelites especially should be kept out.
U.S. Grant
Major-General</p>

<p>La Grange, November 10, 1862
General Webster, Jackson, Tenn.:
Give orders to all the conductors on the road that no Jews are to be permitted to travel on the railroad southward from any point. They may go north and be encouraged in it; but they are such an intolerable nuisance that the department must be purged of them.
U.S. Grant
Major-General</p>

<p>Yours
Steve Echard </p>

<p>At least the south was not openly anti Semitic like the Union,Sherman and Grant and old Abe.
Yes only Jewish military cemetery outside of Israel is in Richmond,CSA graveyard.Who designed the confederate monument yep a Confederate Jew Moses Eziekel. Grant on the other hand issued the following</p>

<p>La Grange, Tenn., November 9, 1862
Major-General Hurlbut, Jackson, Tenn.:
Refuse all permits to come south of Jackson for the present. The Israelites especially should be kept out.
U.S. Grant
Major-General</p>

<p>La Grange, November 10, 1862
General Webster, Jackson, Tenn.:
Give orders to all the conductors on the road that no Jews are to be permitted to travel on the railroad southward from any point. They may go north and be encouraged in it; but they are such an intolerable nuisance that the department must be purged of them.
U.S. Grant
Major-General
They only mass execution of Black people in the Civil War was at the Hands of Northerners during the draft riots in New York. There would be No Negroes nor Jews in America if it were not for the sacrifice of men like Patton whose grandfather was a confederate Col who died during the War. Nor where Lt General Simon Bolivar Buckner II and Nathan Bedford Forrest the III both the name sakes of their Confederate Gernal ancestor. They where the highest ranking Generals killed in WWI.
At Okinawa shortly before Gen Buckner was killed the Army and Marines overtook the High gound as a bit of humor one southern gave the southern cross (confederate Flag)he had in his knapsack to fly over the castle. Just as a Southern thing.There were no Negroes there to be offended.The Yankees who fought with them found in funny and cheered,of course Buckner took it down,
The sands of Iwo Jima the shores of Normandy were soaked in the Blood of the descendants of the Confederacy and you dare to equate the flag with Nazis no mame you ar wrong.
We were not war criminals we did not loot and burn and target civilians or have a policy of torturing POWs that was part the Official policy of the Union Army
If you know that 90% of the Confederate soldiers didn't own slaves, probably not. My great-grandfather fought in the illustrious Stonewall Brigade Under Stonewall Jackson and he was an abolitionist. Whoever his home was being invaded and the official policy of the Union Army under Sheridan and Sherman was a scorched earth policy.Almost all the stuff you read about the Civil War is pure propaganda. I am sure you have heard of Andersonville the famous Civil War prison, but you haven't heard of the dozens of prisons with higher mortality rates in the North for Confederate prisoners. The official policy of the North was a brutalized and starve Confederate prisoners.
My great grandfather was a pow at the infamous Fort Delaware
"Rebel prisoners in our hands are to be subjected to a treatment finding its parallels only in the conduct of savage tribes and resulting in the death of multitudes by the slow but designed process of starvation and by mortal diseases occasioned by insufficient and unhealthy food and wanton exposure of their persons to the inclemency of the weather....Congressional Globe, 38th Congress, 2nd session, 1/24/1865, pg. 381
No we were not Nazis we did not call for the Howls of Rebels Women and Children and did Sherman. 'Who actualy called for Southern genocide as he did later with Lakota Indians Calling it "the final solution to the Indain problem."
Proud to be SCV
GO Generals</p>

<p>while i appreciate the effort that went into this post, a little spellcheck and punctuation could have improved your plausibility greatly.</p>

<p>deo,</p>

<p>Unfortunately you will never convince those who fail to do any independent research but rely upon generations of television/hollywood idiots to teach them history. It's much easier to use the stereotypes and argue from that position.</p>

<p>Yes I should have edited that,typed it fast and too late at night thanks. I have very strong feelings on the issue.(equating Confederate with Nazis) I thought I had saved it for later editing. The plausibility of what I wrote however has nothing to do with the errors . Everything wrote is well documented and I can provide original sources for it. I would suggest anyone interested in the other side of this story go to the King Lincoln Archives no Lew Rockwell.Com.</p>

<p>Yes your are correct ,critical thinking and research are not often found in discussions of the war and that goes for either side. This lady has never been presented with any intelligent argument other than what she has been taught and is like not to be interested in learning. Likewise the neo Confederate who completely deny the roll of slavery and other issues are the same way. Usually though they are better read and at least do not carry the inherent prejudices against the South taught in public schools.
This gets back to the issue of education rather than indoctrination. Washington and Lee is a wonderful school but its faculty are no more free to express an intelligent defense of aspects of some of the reasons for secession than any other school. Debate on this issue is anathema in education.
They must follow the formula as well, secession had no defense,the war was solely about slavery.So if our northern friends who may be coming to W and L should be worried about that please do not be,the official version will be taught but without the usual anti southern invective.</p>

<p>Take it from a mixed-raced girl who was born and raised in a poor south GA family. Real cotton country (although it’s mostly pecans now). I’ve never experienced Racism. Really, never. Not until this year, where a boy at my boarding school told me he really liked me despite the fact that I was black. He had always disapproved of inter-racial couples. He’s from Manhattan. </p>

<p>The lot of the modern black southerner is a strange one indeed.
I grew up with jazz, and fried chicken,Soul music and a big family. My family’s from Louisiana, so my mom cooked a lot of creole food. I say yes ma’am and no sir. My friends at boarding school accuse me of having a southern accent. But I am also a pageant queen. I had my first "little miss pageant when I was 5. Traditionally, pageants are a white thing, but I did just as well as all the other girls, and my color was never even a factor. Before I went away to school, I wanted to be a deb.</p>

<p>The south is not what you think it is. It’s a mix of so many polar opposite parts, that an easy, neutral balance had been formed. One where, except in the most extreme cases of bigoted ideas and bad parenting, a mixing of, and tolerance for all cultures had been formed. </p>

<p>Don’t rule out the south.</p>

<p>y’all are weird. i love the south and washington and lee. don’t come here if you hate preppy kids and southern traditions. y’all can go to berkeley or nyu or some other granola-munching hippie school if you don’t like what we do/wear down here</p>

<p>Artschoolmom, get over it! yeah yeah I know we southerners say it wasnt about slavery it was about other stuff. But listen to the historians most of them agree that slavery was a small disagreement compared to other things. I personally know one AA friend of mine that has the confederate flag flown at her house because one of her relatives fought for the confederates. Don’t make such a big deal out of small things like the flag. We like to fly it because of history and remembering when so many men died in the Civil war.</p>

<p>mko600: What the heck are you talking about? Your post is idiotic. Please go to Duke or wherever else it is you keep posting your chance thread and stay away from W&L. You clearly know very little about history and less about what makes W&L a special place.</p>