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<p>kimjm-white27, Ojai, Junior
Latindude, Socorro, Junior
juzam_djinn, Socorro, Junior
tweetletwoot, Socorro, Sophomore
Ladros, Socorro, Junior
Sigh, Ojai, Junior
rahrah, Ojai, Sophmore</p>

<p>...i refuse to spell sophmore "correctly"! it does not have an o sound!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!</p>

<p>...sorry. please ignore my ragings at the writers of the dictionary.</p>

<p>dmitriy, don't know the chances, but good luck anyways!
we have 7 of the 70ish people in SSP this year on CC. That's 1/10th of all of them on CC, and possibly more to come!</p>

<p>hi, i'm new to cc</p>

<p>I got into SSP at soccoro, and I'm really interested in it...but I'm not as interested in the astronomy part and probably won't follow that career path. I'm more interested in the math/physics integration, the computer programming, and the research involved. Just wondering, for any SSP alumni out there, how did you feel about the camp (compared to other camps like Mathcamp or PROMYS if you've gone there), the balance of astronomy/other topics, the depth of topics, and the academic vs. social life? So far this is the only camp I've heard from and I need to make a decision soon. I'd appreciate any advice from alumni (or anyone else)</p>

<p>thanks in advance!</p>

<p>Welcome and Congrats on getting in! Hope you could join us at Socorro this summer!</p>

<p>I may be wrong but I think that most people that are posting here have not been to SSP yet. It would seem to be that the balance of both sides would be equal, since this program stresses each aspect of the curriculum we learn. It would be a pretty safe bet to say that you will probably make many friends there, you are afterall spending half your summer there. Many of the previous alumni have made sites and from the ones that I see, it would seem that you spend a lot of time together in the project or just staying up late to watch a movie. It's up to you to decide. If you are accepted into a program you like better then follow your heart. GL with it and if you choose SSP, I'll see you there.</p>

<p>Ladros</p>

<p>SSP si yi ga xing cultural experience lol.. ni yo heng doh ren xing huan wu li.</p>

<p>Maybe wo yao chu SSP as a TA but TA si all SSP alumni... =( Maybe I feel like applying to SSp next year as a college student it would be really funny lol... Astronomy is where I had a passion in for a long time but I lost it when I started playing too many computer games and the passion hasn't recovered since though I wanna do a triple major in astro, phys, and math.</p>

<p>Anyways... umm.. rahrah, I tracked down your research report for Intel ISEF by googling your name + ISEF and actually understood it! Realy quite interesting. :) Anyways umm... is Eta Carinae a Wolf-Rayet? Also the spectra are really interesting but Betelgeuse seems to have its blackbody peak at higher energies than Rigel but it's supposed to be cooler.. hmm..</p>

<p>Spectra change over time - could it be because Wolf-Rayets are really unstable? Do the spectra of stable stars like the Sun change over time?</p>

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<p>i just got 2nd place in the Astronomy part of the state science olympiad made some stupid mistakes and didn't get first grrrr.. due to confusion over Orion Triangular Nebula which for some reason I didn't think at that time was the Orion Nebula. Anyways it's a funny team combo: the SSP admit and the SSP reject and the SSP admit didn't prepare for it at all - just spontaneously announced he wanted to do it on the day of the competition - and I had all the resources so I relegated the menial tasks (plotting, copying the book) to him while I did the equations lol....</p>

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<p>Do any of you use Starry Night Pro? I have it on my computer but don't use it much - is its primary importance to show people the location of stars at particular times so that they could go observing them outside? There isn't much info at all about individual stars not even the basics such as spectral type grr.. Still interesting to see the point of view from individual stars like Deneb - so far away that all of the stars we know are clustered in one region.</p>

<p>I had a lot of astronomy questions, even asked on physics forums, but they went unanswered. =( Googling them is useless. maybe I could get responses here though that would be really nice!</p>

<p>Ok, so "Astronomy Today" says that the Sun will turn into a red supergiant after it becomes a red giant and starts burning helium. I thought it only went into a red giant b4 going planetary nebulae. Also aren't supergiants supposed to be more than a certain number of solar masses?</p>

<p>Also - what exactly is the difference between a red and a blue supergiant. Supernova 1987A was a blue supergiant and I think red supergiants go supernovae too... Also, where do Cepheid variables fit in this spectrum? Does a red supergiant go from red to Cepheid variable to blue supergiant, for example? i think i've read that red supergiants turn into blue supergiants than back and force vice versa as star destabilizes and restabilizes...</p>

<p>Prolly not the place to post a reply to you simfish.... but I believe a red supergiant would be cooler than a blue supergiant... thats just the way it works. I forget specifically why the blue wavelength is emitted instead of red, but look it up in a physics book. I also have my doubts about the Sun burning helium... not because I don't think its possible, its just with all of the H-alpha particles (ionized helium) being emmitted during coronal mass ejections (CME), how much mass will the sun have left? Plus, if the sun is losing mass, doesn't that mean our orbit would be getting larger and larger?
my half peso...</p>

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<p>Oh, sorry, that wasn't what I was meaning; the fact that a red supergiant is cooler is self-evident (to me at least). I was asking about how they are different with regards to stellar evolution. Does umm.. a red supergiant ever go into a blue supergiant or vice versa. And which does a massive star evolve into first?</p>

<p>And yes, the Sun will lose 30% of its mass before it goes planetary nebulae. I think the Earth';s orbit will also expand due to this.</p>

<p>THis forum probably isn't the best place but why not ask here anyways? 0.95 to the 14th power is less than 0.5 So If I had a 5% chance of getting a response everywhere I aksed and I asked 14 times then chances are in my favor that I'd get a decent response. Maybe not so impatient though as I'll be going to university next year.</p>

<p>our last year's stuff (instead of what you found) is what we actually spent months on. anyways, betelgeuse looks like it has a higher curve than rigel because we didn't flux calibrate the spectra (take into account instrumental response). we could have, but we didnt. sorry, i cant answer all you questions right now, i dont have much time to post.</p>

<p>i don't understand your post simfish...</p>

<p>Ladros~</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply. I'm still examining all my options and haven't made a decision yet. 3 days left to do so.</p>

<p>o11, i know that this won't change your decision but........</p>

<p>if you come to socorro, I will give you a quarter there!</p>

<p>""Hi Dmitriy,</p>

<p>A spot has opened up for you at the 47th annual Summer Science Program in Socorro, New Mexico, June 19 - July 30. Thank you very much for your patience, and congratulations!
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<p>Sweet! I be in! Congrats all who got in!</p>

<p>congrats dmitriy! can't wait to see all of you there!</p>

<p>plaudits! Everyone who are going, add your name to the list:</p>

<p>kimjm-white27, Ojai, Junior
Latindude, Socorro, Junior
juzam_djinn, Socorro, Junior
tweetletwoot, Socorro, Sophomore
Ladros, Socorro, Junior
Sigh, Ojai, Junior
rahrah, Ojai, Sophmore</p>

<p>Wow, this is really something. 5 people on CC going to socorro! Ill see you all there.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.freewebs.com/ssp_2005_socorro%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.freewebs.com/ssp_2005_socorro&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Check out the site I made, it's pretty crude but it's a start. Will make a better one later. </p>

<p>Let's get to know each other! check out the site...</p>

<p>Ladros, I don't go to SSP but got referred to that site.</p>

<p>Might I ask what a randomly flying mouse trailer is doing on it, and why one of the pages has HUMONGOUS pictures of...a basketball game, a severed pig head, Aragorn, and some random lady?</p>

<p>...</p>

<p>LOL! It's kind of an inside joke between KG and I. And yes, most of it does not have anything to do with SSP at the moment, BUT it will. I apologize if you found it inappropriate but if you can find the humor in it, then its all gravy. I do want to get to know you guys a bit and I thought it was a good idea to make a site.</p>

<p>Anyways, here's some 411 about popular culture:</p>

<p>That random lady is Natalie Portman (please do not tell me you didn't know who that was)</p>

<p>That basketball game was a picture of KG, aka Kevin Garnett (once again, please do not tell me you didn't know who that was)</p>

<p>that severed pigs head was from the recent box office thriller Saw</p>

<p>But you got the Aragorn so good job on that...</p>

<p>The diary on that page is quite interesting...</p>

<p>kimjm-white27, Ojai, Junior
Latindude, Socorro, Junior
juzam<em>djinn, Socorro, Junior
tweetletwoot, Socorro, Sophomore
Ladros, Socorro, Junior
Sigh, Ojai, Junior
rahrah, Ojai, Sophomore
Dmitriy</em>Y, Socorro, Junior</p>

<p>Dmitriy_Y, could you confirm whether you are junior or sophomore?</p>

<p>wow, is Socorro supposed to be a better site or something?? Ojai doesn't seem very popular among cc-er's..</p>

<p>meh, both places will have a roughly equal amount of participants in the end, so it doesn't really matter about how the ojai people are represented on CC.
Yeah, I agree that the website is pretty random, but it is also really cool, especially the pictures!
zoogies, how did you get referred to that site?</p>