<p>I'm a European student and St. Andrew's is fairly well-known here, probably more so than McGill. But I plan on working in the US. I would major in economics at both universities. Which one would you recommend??</p>
<p>I don't think St. Andrew's is better-known than McGill.</p>
<p>Have you not posted enough threads on this already?</p>
<p>I realize this might seem annoying, but the other discussion was McGill or NYU. As I will visit St. Andrew's in two days, I wish to get an impression beforehand by listening to everyone's advice here. This is the last "vs." thread for now ;-)</p>
<p>As a golfer, I would take St. Andrew's anyday. It's a good university, and I believe that college students get to play the old course for what...like 10 dollars (compared to the $300 for foreigners)...</p>
<p>So, here I am again. Would you say that, if I want to get into the finance world, like consulting or banking, it would be smarter to go to St. Andrew's or McGill? Since I'm not an American, I couldn't work in NYC if I went to McGill. So the next best thing would be London, which obviously is closer to St. Andrew's. It just seems to me that McGill has a better reputation than St. Andrew's. But St. Andrew's will probably be easier in terms of grades, so that it might look better in the end if I get good grades at St. Andrew's rather than mediocre grades at McGill???? I can't make up my mind. Please give me some advice.</p>
<p>Well, I don't know about St. Andrews, and not to say that McGill is bad in the field or anything, but it's not particularly known for its finance program. At least as far as I know.</p>
<p>Edit: I should mention it's still a good choice. A friend of mine got a job at the Bank of Canada recently.</p>
<p>Mcgill is regarded as being academicaly better than St. Andrews as a whole. no idea about economics. If you want to work in London St. Andrews would be better. As you wan to work in NYC I would go to St. andrews and save money for a masters in some form of business/economics subject in the USA which will increase your chances of getting a job there.</p>
<p>Thanks! So it seems to me St. Andrew's fits me better. Still, I have one question. Generally, I have the impression, to get into i-banking etc. the overall reputation of the university counts more than what you studied. So even though McGill has the better reputation, would you still recommend St. Andrew's?</p>
<p>It depends on where you want to be an I-banker. The main centers are really NYC, London and Hong Kong. For London definatly St. Andrews. For NYC probably McGill but the fame of St. Andrews in that region is quite good and growing mainly due to a certain royal that went there and the large amount of american undergarduates that have gone to the uni for a JYA or a degree. St. Andrews seems to be better regarded there than in the UK. In HK no idea. Your choice is not a bad one. Both schools are good. But being currently in the same debate as you: where to go? I know it's a hard choice. Regarding majors I have meet Ibankers that have music degrees so a business/economics degree is not essential. I would advice you to go for a subject that requires a lot of analyses of diferent ideas and situations such as politics, history, sociology, languages (as long as the literature side is strong) and etc... Economics is also a good one.</p>
<p>Ok, so now I think that I would enjoy myself more during my studies in St. Andrew's than in McGill. But, when it comes to the post-bachelor-studies time, i.e. getting internships and/or jobs at I-banks, I feel McGill will open more doors for me. Has anybody heard anything about recruitment at St. Andrew's? I can't find anything about that. Also, to which US university or college would you compare St. Andrew's?</p>
<p>Well I guess there are more oportunities around McGill than St.Andrews.Lol!!! Well Edinburgh has become a good financial center with a few major Banks. Toronto also usually has branches of the big financial organizations. New York is also not that far and you could always take unpaid internships over the summer if you have the cash to pay for the living expenses. I am not sure about which one to compare it with but personally I would put it at the level of Perdue or University of Virginia.</p>
<p>Wow, you'd compare St. Andrew's to UVA? That's pretty good. But concerning the internships in NYC, I'm a European, so there might be some problems in regards to the visa or work permit, etc. So I'm not sure whether McGill's close location to NYC would be of any benefit to me personally. At least, I haven't heard of any foreigner who did summer internships in NYC.</p>
<p>I have heard of a few Europeans who have done internships in NYC but you have to go for a nonpaying one and have to fund your cost of living. You need to get a visa. Can't remember which one. What part of the EU are you from? Are Canadian unis as expensive as Americans?</p>
<p>McGill runs about $25-30k USD for internationals, which goes down to $5-8k USD if you become a Quebec resident. US state universities will run $20k+ for out-of-staters, and private universities run anywhere from zip (cooper union) to $50k.</p>
<p>I believe the student visa is an F or a J. A work visa is an H-1B. But you might be able to work without getting an H if the school sponsors your employment. You should talk to the INS about that. I know for fact that oncampus work is not regulated by INS, but offcampus recruitment is.</p>
<p>Just a short explanation I forgot to put into my UVA and St. Andrews comparison. I ment to say that is what it seems to be compared to in the USA. Give or take. A good few people seem to see it as the Oxbridge of Scotland. In the UK the most prestigious Scotish university would be Edinburgh. I personaly would compare it with Perdue.</p>