St. John's university

<p>can anyone tell me about St. john's university in queens
I visited it and it seemed nice and its my number one choice
can anyone give me info on stuff i should know, thanks</p>

<p>i had posted this in another thread.......</p>

<p>first off the school is considered a safety to many but it is still a good school. However it costs close to 40,000 dollars a year so unless your D is getting scholarship money i'd think carefully about coming here (you can get a good education here its just that for the money you can get one of the same quality or better for less cash elsewhere)</p>

<p>Second, it is still a big commuter school. Several thousand students live on the main Queens campus while several hundred reside on either the Manhattan or Staten Island campus. The thousands of others who go here commute.</p>

<p>I read up above that the area near the campus in Queens is safe. That is not true. Several times this year students have been robbed or harrassed outside the campus in Queens. I have walked around the area late at night and never had a problem but i am always careful. It seems that young women are targeted more often than men as well. Despite this public safety seems to do a pretty good job and takes every report seriously. The public bus stops are right out front of the school so you don't have to walk far for them which is good.</p>

<p>Next, the school does not have very much of a campus feel. No frat or sorority houses There are frat and sororities though. The school has a fair amount of activities but most everybody goes to Manhattan to have fun, party, etc. To drink most students who live in Queens go to this one bar up the street or the occasional house party. Most bars card on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights however. There is drinking in the dorms, but i can't say how prevalent it is. Overall not a real big social life on campus.</p>

<p>Now to academics....The pharmacy and law programs at this school are both nationally praised. The english department is good, i've only taken one class but from what i've heard and experienced it's a pretty decent program. Same with some other majors.</p>

<p>Umm to finish out it is a catholic school so just understand that before you come here. We have Big east basketball so thats fun to go see. Also its a very diverse population with alot of students of Asian or Indian descent, which might matter to you or it might not. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me and i apologize for my spelling.</p>

<p>I went to college here years ago, to their undergrad business school for accounting - at the time had an excellent reputation. I never felt that college bond with the other students - that may be because of the commuter nature of the school, or that I just wasn't a social fit with the school. The school was highly Italian and Greek from Queens and Long Island when I went - so were the frats and sororities, and as it was the early 80's, disco was still big - in fact, it came here to die. My memories consist of looking at a blur of gold chains and used Lincoln Towncars. I think I would have been loads happier somewhere else.</p>

<p>Also, there was a core requirement at the time, dont know if it exists now, of 9 credits of philosophy and 9 credits of religion. It is all taught with a Catholic bent. As I was raised secular, this also contributed to my feeling of it just being a bad fit.</p>

<p>To further what MattsMomFl said there is still a core requirement, i think its like 18 or so credits</p>

<p>wow kinsmears52 is it really that bad?</p>

<p>I only know that my nephew was accepted with a nice amount of merit money even though his GPA wasn't that hot. So they must give some really nice financial aid packages.</p>

<p>re you post^^ I don't think kingmears meant to convey that St. Johns is bad. I re-read this part:</p>

<p>"I read up above that the area near the campus in Queens is safe. That is not true. Several times this year students have been robbed or harrassed outside the campus in Queens. I have walked around the area late at night and never had a problem but i am always careful. It seems that young women are targeted more often than men as well. Despite this public safety seems to do a pretty good job and takes every report seriously. The public bus stops are right out front of the school so you don't have to walk far for them which is good." </p>

<p>The same really can be said about almost any urban campus. Students can become targets anywhere where they are on foot late at night esp. true if alcohol is involved and sadly women have always be victimized more in this way. </p>

<p>I think the thing about St. Johns that may be the biggest strike is its lack of a tradional college feel but if you visit and you like it you should definately not rule it out because of safety</p>

<p>scotchlite: No St. Johns isn't a bad place. I personally have some problems with the school and i like to give my honest opinion to those asking about it. Even though there are some occasional problems with crime/safety like i said, if you are smart and use caution odds are you will be perfectly fine.</p>

<p>I know lots of people who go there and love it. Like any city university, there will be some issues (such as a little bit of crime off campus, and slightly higher expenses), but overall, it's a good school and most people enjoy their time there.</p>

<p>My uncle went to St. Johns and he said it was a great college. Back then he was an accountant major and right after graduation he landed a job that pays 70k+.</p>

<p>WOW thanks for all the info
right now i have an undecided major and dont really know what to do with my life . my dad wants me to do pharmacy but i dont know
anyway do you guys want to suggest anything, and dont give me that ''Do what you want to do". I want to major in something that will gaurantee me a solid job and isint that boring, thank you again.</p>

<p>I take it you're looking for a major that leads to instant jobs...</p>

<p>Well, as an education major, you'd be guaranteed a rewarding job right after graduation. In some states, experienced teachers can make up to $65k a year. Then there's always a need for social workers. A social work degree can lead to careers in CSI or law enforcement, local clinics, organizations that help families, etc. </p>

<p>If you're looking to make more money than that, I know that engineers (especially environmental engineers) are going to be in extremely high demand in the future. Computer science is also a solid (and often lucrative) field.</p>

<p>But really, those are just ideas. It depends on what you like.</p>

<p>wow thanks so much world changer
um i dont know about education but what do you think about majoring in economics? is this a solid major that will guarantee me a job with good pay?</p>

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<p>my dad wants me to do pharmacy but i dont know</p>

<h2>anyway do you guys want to suggest anything, and dont give me that ''Do what you want to do". I want to major in something that will gaurantee me a solid job and isint that boring, thank you again.</h2>

<p>I am quite certain that your dad is right. If you want a solid job that is relatively immune from outsourcing, then Pharmacy is it.</p>

<p>The demand for healthcare in this country is only going to increase even as the overall population ages. It's the demographic trend that pushes the healthcare industry to grow and the Baby Boomer generation will start to retire in 3 years.</p>

<p>The demand for Pharmacists is only going to increase and note this --- Pharmacy requires many years of training but the subsequent salaries are well above average. I have pharmacist friends who graduated from St. Johns 4 years ago who are now earning 6 figures. </p>

<p>Worse, America is IMPORTING pharmacists from overseas. The Philippines is one source I happen to know because I have friends from that place who are now here.</p>

<p>New York state does not have a lot of Pharmacy schools and St. Johns is one of the premier ones. I have to warn you that the enrollment for pharmacy at St. John's is quite competitive and they only have limited slots for the number of students planning to enroll.... good luck.</p>

<p>If you can't make St. John's, Rutgers University is probably the other closest alternative. The other one is NY State is the Albany College of Pharmacy.</p>

<p>All of these are of course premised on your listening to your dad's advise.</p>

<p>BTW, if you are interested in Teaching, then NY City is always in need of good teachers. CUNY's Queens College ( not far from St. Johns ) will even offer to pay for your College Education if you sign an agreement to work as a NY City teacher after you graduate ( whether you'll like the school the city assign's you is another matter altogether ).</p>

<p>I know this for a fact because I have friends whose kids actually TURNED DOWN the offer of Queens College ( their grades were quite good, not top, but good and their SAT scores were above average ).</p>

<p>Rutger's School of Pharmacy is also highly highly competitive.</p>

<p>thank you for the info, i know my dad is right , pharmacy is a great major
the thing is i applied to St. john's with an undecided major and now im in at the liberal arts and science college. If i apply to the pharmacy program then they must deny my acceptence to the liberal arts college. since its so competitive i really dont think i would get in, what im trying to do is go there for a year and try to transfer into the pharmacy college after i meet the requirements. do you guys have any suggestions?</p>

<p>can anyone help me ?</p>

<p>St. Johns isn't really that super competitive when it comes to liberal arts and it is relatively easy to get in.</p>

<p>However, when it comes to Pharamcy, it becomes a different ball game.
The competition is tough. Why ? because students know that the MARKET DEMAND for Pharmacy is there and there is a premium the market pays for Pharmacists. Hence the competition to get into the College of Pharmacy is fierce and they only accept a few out of many who apply.</p>

<p>As I noted before --- Pharmacists, Nurses and Occupational/Physical Therapists are now being IMPORTED from overseas ( e.g., Philippines, South Korea. etc. ) simply to fill up the shortage of healthcare workers as the Baby Boomers retire. This is a Demographic problem we face and cannot be solved easily.</p>

<p>St. John's admin is also wise to the fact that there are students who will enroll in another department and "change their mind" in the second year to try to get to their College of Pharmacy. The likelihood of this working is not that great. Better to try entering the regular way -- during your freshman year.</p>

<p>Sorry to tell you this but I'm just keeping it real.</p>

<p>But why are you obsessing over St. Johns ? It isn't as if this is the only school in NY or the tri-state area with a good pharmacy school.</p>

<p>We have TONS of great pharmacy schools in NY State and Surrounding States like -- NJ, CT, PA, MA, RI and MARYLAND.</p>

<p>Just go to this website and select the state you're interested in ... you have over a dozen Pharmacy Schools in NY and surrounding states to apply to :</p>

<p>Pharmacy</a> Choice - Links to New York pharmacy schools and pharmacy universities - February 22, 2008</p>

<p>I want to go to st. john's because of its location. My parents own a house in the bronx where i can live and not have to pay for room and board. that leaves tuition which can be handled with fafsa, scholarships and or loans.
I know that the pharmacy program will be difficult to get into, and I should have applied with that major instead of undecided. when I called and told them my situation they said that they must reject the first acceptance and then I have to apply again for the pharmacy program. honestly my grades in high school were good but not good enough for pharmacy. I just emailed them asking them if I can transfer in after one year or something and have not heard back yet. You are so right about the need for pharmacists in the country and I wish I can go back in time. I'll see what happens and anyway not getting in to the pharmacy school wont be the end of the world.
Thank you so much for the info watcher, p.s I really like big east basketball and thats another reason for the St. John's "obsession".</p>

<p>scotchlite5,</p>

<p>My son applied and was accepted to St. John's. He also visited the Queens campus and really liked it. In fact, he is planning to attend there this Fall and live on campus. He is pretty excited, too, and is looking forward to St. John's basketball, along with the whole experience of going to college in NY.</p>

<p>Good luck on your decision.</p>

<p>cool, good luck to you too!</p>