Stanford is counting the Writing

<p>Going OT, Matt, the lack of snow is worrying me.</p>

<p>Couldn't find a link to the mentioned article. OP, anyone have a link?</p>

<p>it just started snowing.</p>

<p>Dont worry. The bulk of the storm will arrive at 6 am tomorrow and continue to be intense until 9 am. That wipes out morning commute, even with a 2-hour delay. Theres no possible chance of school.</p>

<p>haha. We had a snow day today! In Texas!!! Can you believe it? It was amazing.</p>

<p>no snow here. i'm so sad, but i've only seen snow once in the five years i've lived here. once.</p>

<p>If you can't write down what you're thinking without muddling it, then you are not a strong writer. </p>

<p>Answering an essay question, especially one that is strictly opinion, which requires no background knowledge, shouldn't be difficult if you're a decent writer who can organize your thoughts.</p>

<p>haha... you keep pushing it.</p>

<p>ryan was talking about stream of consciousness. that is pure expression. you cannot write fast enough to convey every thought on paper.</p>

<p>also... the language of thought is not english or any other spoken language. If while thinking, you spoke sentences in your head, you'd be an extremely slow person. That is the imperfection of language.</p>

<p>None of us ever said the essay topic was difficult. I guess we're just perfectionists or something.</p>

<p>I never said I can't write down what I'm thinking...I said I can't do it in 20 minutes effectively. I'm a strong writer, but not a fast one, and one does not make the other. Usually, it takes me 20 minutes just to organize my thoughts.</p>

<p>The AP Language and Composition test gives you 40 minutes to write essays. And how do my teachers tell me to approach it? Spend 10-15 minutes planning and 25-30 minutes writing. There is no time to plan on the SAT, no time to organize, at least for me.</p>

<p>Just because someone can't write a stellar essay in 20 minutes doesn't mean he or she is a bad writer. Some people pick words carefully in order to better "express" themselves. Some people are more perfectionists than others. It might be easier for a "strong" writer to write a decent essay in 20 minutes, but that doesn't automatically make everybody who has difficulty a "weak" writer.</p>

<p>I'm in the middle on writing. It was my middlest score! hehe</p>

<p>The SAT doesn't expect you to write a stellar essay in 25 minutes, that'd be unrealistic. Being a perfectionist in approaching the SAT doesn't make you a bad writer, true, it just makes you dumb for not knowing better.</p>

<p>The essay only expects you to organize your thoughts and form a decent argument. The questions are designed so that you don't really need to plan because they only want an opinion. It might take a few minutes to justify your opinion, but I can't imagine needing much more than 5-10 to accomplish enough planning to satisfy the essay's rubric.</p>

<p>Bowes, you have to get around that internal language barrier whenever you speak. So, unless you've lived alone all your life, without talking to anyone, I can't justify giving much consideration to that argument. Nice try though.</p>

<p>New, I don't think that you can reasonably explain how you'd be using 20 minutes to organize your thoughts on an SAT essay prompt. I really just do not see it. Maybe you guys just aren't flexible enough to the demands of the assignment. They're not asking what an English teacher would ask of you.</p>

<p>Besides, the essay itself isn't weighted THAT heavily. I understand that everyone here is unhappy with anything less than an 800, but I wouldn't call it unfair.</p>

<p>SNOW DAYYYY </p>

<p>haha sorry, but you guys are being so serious.
and i'm leaving my calc homework to rot to go sledding.</p>

<p>snow day too! :D awesome. I was afraid that our town is going to repeat last year's fiasco, where we were one of the four schools in the whole state that was open during the storm.</p>

<p>Snow day makes me forget this attack on my writing skills. Whatever, whatever, I do what I want.</p>

<p>You keep your opinions, and I'll keep mine.</p>

<p>snow day here too!</p>

<p>We got one too, and I'm way out in Indiana.</p>

<p>Edit: Attack is a strong word... if you can't organize your thoughts and get them down then you may have a weakness that needs to be worked out; I have them too... don't be so sensitive, I'm just a guy on the internet.</p>

<p>If it helps, when I went to an info session last summer, the admissions officer said that they are going to read the actual essays students wrote on the SATs.</p>

<p>IMO, it's to check that students can write with the same voice and style on SATs (where its proctored and you can't cheat) and on their application essays.</p>

<p>awww... that's a bummer cause I only got a 9 on my essay...
also Aeggie - you have to consider that some people don't work well under timed and stressful circumstances. A strong writer who would normally write an amazing essay in the same amount of time at home may not do nearly as well on the SATs because he/she knows how important the SATs really are.</p>

<p>.. and also, gcards1, when did you take your SATs? cause I also got a 78mc and 9 essay but I got a 760, not 770 on the Oct. 8 ones.</p>

<p>Aeggie, I know you got a 710 on writing. What did you get on your essay?</p>

<p>goddamn writing section 1560 MV but 700 writing</p>

<p>ghey.</p>