Stanford is counting the Writing

<p>In a quote in the Wall Street Journal, Richard Shaw, the dean of admissions for Stanford, said that he is "very confident about the research that went into [the writing section of the SAT]." So officially, Stanford will count the writing grade equally with math and verbal grades.</p>

<p>800 Math 800 Verbal and a 690 Writing.
Damn. I can't write an essay in 20 minutes.</p>

<p>ugh great, that was my lowest score. Atleast I got a 12 on the essay...but didnt do nearly as well on the MC.</p>

<p>YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
I'm so glad because my friends were like oh yeah.. writing doesnt count for that much anyways (they were just bitter cause they scored low)... but I'm glad because I got a 760</p>

<p>you just made me very happy :D</p>

<p>LOL... got 1 less than perfect on the writing MC but a 6 on the essay!</p>

<p>meriting a score of 690. But I like to write very deliberately! working out my logic in the best possible manner, which requires time!... what was that 20 min bullsheet???</p>

<p>but I read in one of those huge college catalog things that said, specifically under Stanford, that it wouldn't look at the writing score.</p>

<p>BTW... i just noticed something...</p>

<p>Stanford doesnt "officially weigh" anything. they dont have a numeric algorithm, its very subjective.</p>

<p>If they see your essays are on fire, they'll disregard a low writing score. I was told that by some admissions people too.</p>

<p>by "your essays" did you mean the 20-minute SAT one (which I got a miserable 6/12 on...) or the college essays?</p>

<p>I hate the SAT (and ACT for that matter) writing. </p>

<p>I'm the kind of writer who chooses his words very carefully, so the whole, "lets judge your writing skills on a 20 minute rough draft" doesn't work well for me. Rough drafts for me usually take at least two hours because I'm so picky.</p>

<p>Hopefully the 34 I got on the ACT English will balance out the 630 I got on SAT Writing.</p>

<p>by "your essays" i meant the application essays. i think its a rare occasion that they ask college board to see the persons essays.</p>

<p>Capable writers can write under timed conditions, just not as well, obviously. Writing is simply expression. If it takes you tons of time to write anything, even something as simple as the SAT prompts, then something is wrong with how you approach writing.</p>

<p>Woohoo I got a 750 writing</p>

<p>writing is like debating - it's very difficult, if not impossible, to ardently defend/argue for something when you don't feel any motivation by its topic. i happened to land with a topic that went something like arguing whether "our work defines who we are" and felt clueless and 'blah' after reading it. I don't think real writing is about how much stuff you can churn out in 20 minutes (btw there's a correlation between the length and the grade on the SAT essays).</p>

<p>there is no right approach to writing. its the final result that counts.</p>

<p>all of the major works that have survived the test of time... do we love them because they were written in a day? no... some works took years to complete, and im sure some were written in flashes of intuition as well.</p>

<p>dont be too quick to judge</p>

<p>I agree w/ Matt... I mean my man Voltaire basically wrote Candide in 3 days w/o editing, and it's pretty much one of the most kick-asss books ever.
Peace out.</p>

<p>Nothing can be "simply" expression. Expression is the articulation of the complexities of human thought. What goes on in my head can't be written down quickly, otherwise the message gets muddled and I'm left unsatisfied.</p>

<p>I want to read Candide!!! I wonder if a high SAT II writing (from january) will balance a low New SAT writing section</p>

<p>I wonder if a 730 SAT II Lit would balance a 660 CR. Probably not. Gahhh dumb vocab.</p>

<p>YES! Writing went from my lowest score to highest with a 770 (78mc, 9e). I bet they'll be at least a bit apprehensive with the essay, since it is somewhat subjective. Maybe writing will balance out my 670cr.</p>

<p>Also, collegeboard has posted the estimated percentiles! 510 is average, with everything above 750 being 99th. 790 and 800 are 99+.</p>

<p>YES! I'm happy with the decision.</p>

<p>BTW I'm not sure if this has been answered, but will a good SAT score actually HELP you get accepted to Stanford? I got a 2360, and I know it definitely won't hurt, but will it actually HELP, no matter how little? Or will Stanford only look at the score, use it to confirm my grades, and move on?</p>

<p>You know what... ultimately... are any of us here stanford university?</p>

<p>Regardless of how smart or how knowledgable of the admissions process we claim to be, we really know just as much as you.</p>

<p>Just ask yourself this... could a score of 2360 possibly be considered worse than a score of 2200?</p>